Windows 10

Glaucus said:
The future is everything will very slowly move to modern apps. Modern apps aren't just touch focused they are everything, designed to run on everything. Especially with continuum.
Look up Maya in keynotes day 1 from the build conference. That's the future.
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Metro Modern apps can and should be built to ruin on phones, desktops, laptops, tablets, watches and consoles. But they are not. The vast majority are touch focused. You can use a keyboard and mouse oh them, but its rarely optimised enough to provide a good user experience.
 
Woden said:
Metro Modern apps can and should be built to ruin on phones, desktops, laptops, tablets, watches and consoles. But they are not. The vast majority are touch focused. You can use a keyboard and mouse oh them, but its rarely optimised enough to provide a good user experience.
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You do realise there is a massive overhaul on them in w10.
Go watch keynote and the Maya demonstration, which shows off continuum, full featured software that runs in different modes depending on what it's plugged into.

On top of that there are many media apps in w8.1 which have a far better UI and UX than the desktop versions. Regardless off input method.
 
The majority of built in default "apps" are on the basic side, like picture viewers, pdf readers, basic email clients etc. Now that they run on the desktop, I don't see how the "modern" ones will be worse? The previous problem was that they pulled you from the desktop (which I hated) and that isn't going to happen now.

Windows Media Player was never amazing anyway, if they could include the lion's share of the previous functionality in the music and video apps with a suitable UI then I'm all for it (advertising aside...). Working well with touch will be a bonus for those that need it.

Hopefully, the focus on universal apps on the desktop will close the gap between simple phone/tablet apps that have flooded the app stores and powerful full featured products. We'll have to see.
 
Mr Gimp said:
All of which aren't remotely productive applications at all. If you are using your device as an entertainment platform then I'd agree that the app approach works.
For people wishing to actually do work on a computer then they're a useless fluffy pain in the arse
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but if u use the computer for work then simply don't use them
 
Glaucus said:
You do realise there is a massive overhaul on them in w10.
Go watch keynote and the Maya demonstration, which shows off continuum, full featured software that runs in different modes depending on what it's plugged into.

On top of that there are many media apps in w8.1 which have a far better UI and UX than the desktop versions. Regardless off input method.
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I ran windows 10, and I know its a huge improvement that I look forward to. But Maya having an awesome keynote demo does not translate to every app in the store. The keynote shows what can be done, rather than what will be the norm. Maria might el be awesome, and I bet at some point Office will go the same way, maybe even adobe. But I don't think must app developers will put the work in to do it.
 
Woden said:
But Maya having an awesome keynote demo does not translate to every app in the store. The keynote shows what can be done, rather than what will be the norm.
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This is the point he completely misses. Just because he's seen one app be pretty good he concludes its the future and everything will be it.

It wont.

If you have to build an app to use on touch devices and non touch, you will built a big, easily jabbed touch interface and then not worry if the guys with desktops touch them.

Personally, Id rather have different apps on my 4" phone to my 24" dual screen PC.
 
Is it worth 'trying' Windows 10 yet? I'm thinking of trying it on my Games only PC. Any games in the near future that will support DX12, any benefits to Win 10 over 7.1 at the moment specifically for current games?

Andi.
 
No real benefit, and a lot of draw backs. Things not working and issues.

It's the same with any beta, only use it if you want to experiment and don't mind working around issues. If that's not for you then don't use beta software.
See so many complaints from people who shouldn't have installed it at this stage if development.
 
I dunno, I've had it as my main OS on my PC for ages. The latest build is pretty stable and I've not had any issues with the games I've run on it.

Considering how little time it takes to install Windows from USB its not even a problem if it doesn't work and you go back.

But then I've always just tolerated new releases. I was running Longhorn Alphas back when they were first leaked, and have always had the latest beta (official or leaked) build of a new Windows OS installed aomehwere since XP. Perhaps I've just grown immune to beta bugs :p
 
Do you guys think Windows 10 will be a good upgrade from 7 for gaming? is 10 more 'light weight' than 7? I've basically got mine so once you boot intoWindows there's only 30 processes running.
 
MrMarvelous said:
Do you guys think Windows 10 will be a good upgrade from 7 for gaming? is 10 more 'light weight' than 7? I've basically got mine so once you boot intoWindows there's only 30 processes running.
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As with the difference between Windows 7 and 8, any difference will be negligible.

I still don't see a compelling reason for most people to upgrade from 7 or 8.1 if for the latter, they are happy with the Start Menu situation. This is whether they like the Start Screen or are happily using a Start Menu Replacement program such as Start8, Startisback or Classic Shell.

However for a new PC or people like me who like to tinker around with the latest OS it's probably worthwhile, especially for free.
 
We already knew that Microsoft Edge would remove much of the legacy technology that's found in Internet Explorer. Microsoft has given perhaps the fullest rundown of what's not in Edge this week. The two traditional ways of extending Internet Explorer, ActiveX and Browser Helper Objects, are both gone. This means no plugins, no toolbars, no Java, no Silverlight. It doesn't, however, mean no Flash; that's a built-in capability. PDF rendering is also built-in.
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http://arstechnica.co.uk/informatio...-high-performance-asm-js-and-no-more-activex/

Yahoo!
 
im looking forward to windows 10 coming out.

I am currently after a new OS and was going to get 8.1 but with 10 not far off im going to wait
 
linktoinsanity said:
As with the difference between Windows 7 and 8, any difference will be negligible.

I still don't see a compelling reason for most people to upgrade from 7 or 8.1 if for the latter, they are happy with the Start Menu situation. This is whether they like the Start Screen or are happily using a Start Menu Replacement program such as Start8, Startisback or Classic Shell.

However for a new PC or people like me who like to tinker around with the latest OS it's probably worthwhile, especially for free.
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Id say that W10 bringing nothing more than being a free upgrade is still a good enough reason to take it.

IMO anyone not taking the free upgrade to W10 in the first year is a fool.
 
Matteysan said:
Thank god for Sliverlight being listed! Hopefully Sky will drop it some time this millennia.
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Agreed, however at least they now have a windows 8.1 app.
Although I can't switch all my systems to it yet. As it detects it as a different system, so can only do one a month :rolleyes:
 
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