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Sigh just made sure all my Windows 10 devices are on latest available updates and 2 of them are having sleep related issues now - one always goes straight into sleep mode, turning off the monitor, the moment the login screen appears - so you have to press a mouse button to wake it up - after that it seems fine but the other does the same thing but randomly goes into sleep mode every 5-15 minutes even if you are in the middle of doing something.

EDIT: Both systems are doing the same thing just happens less often with the other one :( looks like it isn't a particularly unknown issue and requires restoring the default power plans and re-doing settings due to something becoming corrupt.

On another note ouch I've just seen for the first time the security advisory for KB4507469! MS are really dropping the ball.
 
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Oh dear, just ordered my new rig, with Win 10 on as well.

Good job im keeping this rig with 7 on, as my back-up, looks like i'll be needing it :p

Btw, ShutUp10, is there many using it ?

Also, is a MS Account really needed, if your not bothered about the store, for getting games or apps ?, as i just use Steam for my games.
 
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Aye but I haven't been blocking updates. Did originally a few months ago when all the issues hit.



I'm using a local account. Always have.

Thanks, didn't know you could use it to block the updates.

Do you just run it, and leave as is, just on all the recommended settings ?

I don't fancy changing stuff, and ******* it up :p
 
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Thanks, didn't know you could use it to block the updates.

It can only block some updates behaviour - about a year back so I can't remember the build now they started including hard coded checks that eventually force the update service back on and as a last resort force the upgrade advisor if you haven't updated after a set period - I believe the only way of blocking updates that prevents that is the script Dirk has posted.

Ultimately most people should really have done updates at some point before it gets to that point but if you have a reason for controlling updates to a greater degree than "normal" then it isn't a bulletproof option.

Personally I'd just use a MS Account as it makes things easier in the long run especially if you are moving between systems, etc.
 
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It can only block some updates behaviour - about a year back so I can't remember the build now they started including hard coded checks that eventually force the update service back on and as a last resort force the upgrade advisor if you haven't updated after a set period - I believe the only way of blocking updates that prevents that is the script Dirk has posted.

Ultimately most people should really have done updates at some point before it gets to that point but if you have a reason for controlling updates to a greater degree than "normal" then it isn't a bulletproof option.

Personally I'd just use a MS Account as it makes things easier in the long run especially if you are moving between systems, etc.

I'll just leave the updates then, if they get forced eventually :p

Thanks.
 
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It’s like this 1903 update is Microsoft’s way of reminding us they’re still Microsoft! I’ve not had so many problems with windows as I am having now since Windows NT driver issues.
 
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Microsoft releases KB4505903 for Windows 10 version 1903 - ghacks.net

Microsoft released the second cumulative update for Windows 10 version 1903, KB4505903, on Friday evening to the public.

The company tested the update previously in Insider versions to give it another round of testing before releasing it to the public. KB4505903 was released on Thursday initially but Microsoft pulled it on that day to re-release it on Friday. No word on why it was released and then pulled on Thursday.

KB4505903 is a massive update for Windows 10 version 1903 that fixes lots of issues. Note that it is still considered a pre-release update as it is only available when administrators run manual update checks or download it from other sources.
Here is the list of fixes in that update:
  • Fixed an issue that failed to record a local user's last sign-in time.
  • Fixed an issue that might "sever the domain trust relationship" when you enable Recylce Bin in the domain that established the relationship.
  • Fixed Windows Hello authentication not working after a restart.
  • Time Zone information for Brazil updated.
  • Fixed multiple PDF issues in Microsoft Edge, e.g. fixed printing of documents that contain landscape and portrait-oriented pages.
  • Fixed an issue on systems with 10-bit display panels that would show colors incorrectly when viewing images.
  • Fixed an issue that prevented the changing of the brightness after resuming from Sleep or Hibernation.
  • Fixed an issue that returned an empty font family name for Bahnschrift.ttf.
  • Fixed an issue that caused an extra mouse event to be produced on press and release.
  • Fixed the UI stop responding issues when scrolling in windows that has many child windows.
  • Fixed an issue that caused automatic sign in to be bypassed when holding down the Shift key during startup.
  • Fixed an issue that prevented devices from going into Sleep mode when "certain applications that rely on Bluetooth are open".
  • Fixed an issue that caused the Bluetooth audio quality to be reduced.
  • Fixed an issue that prevented Microsoft Application Virtualization scripting from working.
  • Addressed a OneDrive files on-demand opening issue on systems with User Experience Virtualization enabled. Admins need to set the following value to 1 to apply the patch: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\UEV\Agent\Configuration\ApplyExplorerCompatFix
  • Fixed another User Experience Virtualization issue that prevented exclusion paths from working.
  • Fixed an issue that may cause systems with Trusted Platform Modules from working.
  • Fixed an issue that prevented systems from recognizing Microsoft accounts or Azure Active Directory accounts until users signed out and on again.
  • Addressed an issue that prevented the Netlogin service from establishing secure channels.
  • Fixed an issue that prevented the PIN policy from updating for Windows Hello for Business when a PIN existed on the system already.
  • Fixed an issue that prevented the creation of recovery drives.
  • Fixed an issue that prevented an Android emulator based on the virtual machine platform from starting.
  • Fixed an issue that caused users to sign in with a temporary profile in a local user account when it was configured with a mandatory roaming user profile.
  • Fixed an issue that changed the status of Work Folders in File Explorer to 0x80C802A0.
  • Fixed a Remote Desktop Server stop responding issue when someone disconnects who uses drive redirection.
  • Fixed the RASMAN Remote Access Connection Manager service stop working issue.
  • Fixed a connectivity loss issue for applications on a container host.
  • Fixed an issue that prevented connections to a corporate network when using Always On VPN with the IKEv2 protocol.
  • Added limited support for Windows Voice Dictation for Chinese Simplified, English (Australia, Canada, India, United Kingdom), French (France), German (Germany), Italian (Italy), Portuguese (Brazil), and Spanish (Mexico, Spain).
  • Fixed the Windows-Eye screen reader issue.
  • Fixed an issue that prevented App-V applications from opening.
  • Fixed an issue that caused Windows Defender Advanced Threat Protection to lock files so that they cannot be accessed by other process.
  • Fixed an issue that caused Start to stop responding when new users sign in.
  • Updated Windows Ink Workspace by "simplifying the menu and adding direct integration with the Microsoft Whiteboard app for a richer collaboration experience.".
Microsoft lists three known issues:
  • Windows Sandbox may fail to start.
  • The Preboot Execution Environment issue is still a thing as well.
  • Devices connected to a domain that is configured to use MIT Kerberos realms may not startup or may continue to restart.
 
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My main desktop pc cant install the update at the moment for whatever reason........ Does this update change/update the device drivers aswel? I hope it doesn't

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Just noticed that KB4505903 actually fixes something applicable to me: Updates an issue that may prevent you from changing the display brightness after your device resumes from Sleep or Hibernation.

I put this down to Nvidia drivers, but it seems Windows was the issue.
 
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One big update per year.

Historically Microsoft releases two big updates per year for Windows 10, the spring and fall updates (with included issues all the time). That schedule might be changing towards once a year.

Microsoft has reportedly shelved the previous Windows 10 update cycle. There should now be a "Major / Minor" publication plan. The background is apparently the delays and bugs associated with the last two versions.

The major update, the larger of the two, is still waiting with major changes, ie Kernel, Scheduler, APIs and drivers. The Minor update is tiny, but still much more extensive than the update that was usually done on Patch Tuesday. Obviously, features and the user interface are addressed.

The next Windows 10 version, presumably Build 1909, would, therefore, be a minor update, as long as the 1903 is already in use. The build 2003 planned for 2003 would be the first major update to the new release scheme. Regardless of which version you update.

https://www.guru3d.com/news_story/windows_10_one_big_update_per_year.html
 
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Problem with updates today (kb4505903 OR kb508433 OR kb4509096 OR kb506991 OR kb4497932 !

Don't know which one as win update did them all. It seems to have broken "OneDrive". comes up with "Bad Image" on a file called gdiplus.dll.

Others seem to report problems. Come up with an error message at sign on. Cannot see a resolution. Gdiplus.dll is a system file and I cannot change it back to a previous version!

Essence is that OneDrive does not load at start up because of this error. Cannot be uninstalled either.

Got round it by renaming the OneDrive folder in "AppData"!! Bummer.

Mel
 
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Problem with updates today (kb4505903 OR kb508433 OR kb4509096 OR kb506991 OR kb4497932 !

Don't know which one as win update did them all. It seems to have broken "OneDrive". comes up with "Bad Image" on a file called gdiplus.dll.

Others seem to report problems. Come up with an error message at sign on. Cannot see a resolution. Gdiplus.dll is a system file and I cannot change it back to a previous version!

Essence is that OneDrive does not load at start up because of this error. Cannot be uninstalled either.

Got round it by renaming the OneDrive folder in "AppData"!! Bummer.

Mel

I read your post as I was installing the update, lucky for me it's all working fine including OneDrive :) .
 

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Let's hope that bi-yearly "feature" updates really will be a thing of the past. Even yearly is perhaps a little too often, but more bearable at least. I just hope that they bother to use this extra time to actually test.

I miss the times of Service Packs.
 
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Just noticed that KB4505903 actually fixes something applicable to me: Updates an issue that may prevent you from changing the display brightness after your device resumes from Sleep or Hibernation.

I put this down to Nvidia drivers, but it seems Windows was the issue.
Seems that isn't fixed at all for me, but it does seem to happen less often.

I have my brightness adjusted in Nvidia's Control Panel. When the monitor falls asleep and I use the computer again, sometimes the brightness will go to default rather than my setting.
 
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