It was meant flippantly - obviously Gates moved on to other things long before Windows 10 - but I could imagine if I was Bill Gates having that kind of reaction if I was involved in the development of 10 in that capacity and had people bringing me the ***** poor standard of work so much of 10 is.
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It was meant flippantly - obviously Gates moved on to other things long before Windows 10 - but I could imagine if I was Bill Gates having that kind of reaction if I was involved in the development of 10 in that capacity and had people bringing me the ***** poor standard of work so much of 10 is.
Did I ever mention how much I hate this OS?
Got myself a new laptop (10870H, 32GB RAM, RTX3070 as I need to be able to do some RTX dev stuff on the go)... so much fighting with the OS just to get things setup in a useful way, trying to do some benchmarking and store stuff (wsappx) decides to get busy in the background... at some random point it restarts and then sits on a screen saying:
"Configuring Windows features
100% Complete
Don't turn off your computer"
For 2 ****** hours - good thing I had it on AC and not battery and actually wanting to use it.
Made some customisations to the Start Menu only for the next update to reverse them for no apparent reason.
Seriously... ****** brain dead ****** working on this OS.
Still going to be relying on my old Windows 7 Samsung for anything where I need to actually do stuff.
Got myself a new laptop (10870H, 32GB RAM, RTX3070 as I need to be able to do some RTX dev stuff on the go)... so much fighting with the OS just to get things setup in a useful way, trying to do some benchmarking and store stuff (wsappx) decides to get busy in the background... at some random point it restarts and then sits on a screen saying:
"Configuring Windows features
100% Complete
Don't turn off your computer"
For 2 ****** hours - good thing I had it on AC and not battery and actually wanting to use it.
Made some customisations to the Start Menu only for the next update to reverse them for no apparent reason.
Seriously... ****** brain dead ****** working on this OS.
Still going to be relying on my old Windows 7 Samsung for anything where I need to actually do stuff.
Dunno if it is due to the new Internet Explorer vulnerability as some older software used at work runs on it for legacy/compatibility reasons though most people use Chrome for more general browsing but they've rolled a bunch of systems at work back to a Windows 7 image temporarily citing a serious vulnerability in 10 but won't say why.
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Seriously you are brain dead working on Windows 10. Not surprised you not done very simple troubleshooting the same wsappx and Configuring Windows features stuck at 100% issues I done it few years ago, you dont need wasted your time with so much fighting with Windows 10.
Everytime I powered on all Windows 10 devices since last 2 features updates I noticed wsappx used 50% disk usage after I signed in to desktop but it is nothing major concerned, it had no performance impact. I opened Firefox Browser Nightly with 100 tabs opened, Chrome with 20 tabs opened and played a game. There was zero fighting with the OS! Wsappx stopped after about 10 to 15 mins with disk usage went back down to 0%. I am dual booting Windows 10 and Windows 11 Insider beta. Interesting when I signed in to Windows 11 desktop, I was surprised to see modern wsappx used 0% disk usage whole time when not used the app. While I opened wsapp to downloaded and installed updates used 2% disk usage last a few secs with very small updates size 35MB to 100MB. I am not sure whether Microsoft Store on Windows 10 will be update to same version as on Windows 11 on 5 October, if not update to new Microsoft Store, you can download the package and install it on Windows 10 to fix wsappx 50% disk usage.
https://winaero.com/how-to-install-new-microsoft-store-for-windows-11/
Few years ago I used VMWare Workstation and VirtualBox tested insider builds, after downloaded and installed new builds from Windows Update, I clicked to restarted PC with Configuring Windows features on screen went up to 100% but it stayed there for more than a min so I decided to leave it and did other stuff on desktop like browse internet etc. Checked on after 15, 30 and 60 mins it still stuck at 100%. I troubleshooted it thought hmmm that cant be right, should be done in around 1 min to restart PC to run installation. Could be a bug or corrupted system files?
I reset VM and signed in to desktop then open PowerShell:
DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /CheckHealth
DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /ScanHealth
DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth
sfc /scannow
After 10 mins, it found corrupted system files and succeed repaired system files then I ran Windows Update to downloaded and installed new insider build again.
I clicked restarted PC and Configuring Windows features on screen went up to 100% after a min then it restarted and installation began.
Windows 10 is not the only OS blamed for the issue. People had the same issue with Windows 8 stuck at 100% when tried to installed Windows 8.1, Windows 7 stuck at 100% when tried to installed SP1 and Windows Vista stuck at 100% when tried to installed SP1 and SP2.
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us...date-100/c627c0f4-d768-4969-a8f7-b1322411a718
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us...ures-100/b44bc1f0-29d0-41f8-a13b-b58cc55d9242
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us...ete-dont/8f82337c-f885-4499-a2ee-5505c1e1427b
It strangely you said PC restarted at random point, it never restarted at random point on my devices. I always see a blue dialog after Windows Update installed feature update like this below I clicked Restart now button.
Did you used your laptop factory installed Windows 10 with all bloatware first time or you cleaned installed Windows 10 before used it first time?
If your laptop sync settings then it probably best to sign in your Microsoft account on browser to delete all devices settings data and start fresh again then you should not have issues with Windows 10.
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Over 1.3 billion people included me would said that Windows 10 is not poor standard of work. Bill Gates would screamed in front of your face Windows 10 is not ***** poor standard of work.
Yes Bill Gates was resigned as CEO on 13 January 2000, he continued as Microsoft Chairman until 2014 and took new position as Microsoft Chief Software Architect until July 2008 worked on Windows Vista, Windows 7 and Windows Mobile. He was a member of Microsoft board of directors until 2020 but Bill Gates still not left Microsoft, he now got 1 job position as Technology Advisor to CEO Satya Nadella since 2014.
Unfortunately to you, Bill Gates was involved in Windows Phone, Windows 8, Windows 8.1, Windows 10, Windows 10X, Windows 11, Windows Core OS developments, Azure and all projects. Interesting I been read some Microsoft Confidential documents to had a look how their business operated. Microsoft developers did not just started OS development immediately right away. Microsoft probably needed about 1 year to developed a business plan with ideas on future Windows OS designs and features but it not up to developers and CEO to approved the plan so it actually is up to Microsoft board of directors votes to approved or cancelled plans and gave CEO authority power to ordered Microsoft Project Managers to started OS development for developers to worked on projects. Also Microsoft board of directors was looked at projects progress weekly, monthly and quality control that was about ready to launch, it is up to them decided to vote whether to approved plan to launched it or cancelled it or continue project to improve quality or merge project into other project. That was how they cancelled Windows 10X months before launch date and they had the votes majority to approved plan to launch Windows 11 on 5 October 2021 and approved one feature update a year.
Automatic Update project was Bill Gates vision and board of directors approved the plan to put it in Windows Me development then as Microsoft Chief Software Architect Bill had a vision of modern Windows Update app, he wanted to moved Agent away from Windows Update website version and integrated into Windows Update app and the board of directors approved his idea. It was amazed worked very well with Windows Vista and then board of directors included Bill Gates himself approved plan to removed manual update option on Windows Update for Windows 10. Fully Automatic Update was impressive worked very effective 6 years on.
You then go on to explain below exactly the behaviour which makes this such a problem... it isn't that I don't know how to fix it - it is that it happens in the first place far too often and with Windows 10 taking away a lot of the ability to stop if affecting you in the first place. I'm not sure how that is difficult to grasp.
This was a brand new fresh install of the OS and all...
You are missing the point yet again - with Windows 7 you the user had proper control to be able to avoid that kind of behaviour impacting on your use, it isn't that it didn't happen but you had far more if not complete ability to prevent it happening when it would be inconvenient. With Windows 10 they've taken away a lot of that control while the OS lacks real world context awareness so its is completely stupid of them.
Aside from as with many things in the OS they don't always work as intended - in this case it was a fresh new install with updates settings on defaults, etc. and it decided to reboot itself for updates while I left it unattended for a bit while dealing with other stuff.
I wiped out the factory install because of all the bloatware like the Nahimic **** which Windows 10 annoyingly keeps trying to reinstall... (even after following an extensive guide on disabling it). I won't be buying from vendors who use that **** again....
Only it isn't 1.3billion - plenty of people don't like the OS, many others just don't complain. And if Bill Gates thinks Windows 10 isn't extremely poor quality of work he is an idiot - quite the opposite though I suspect he finds Windows 10 an embarrassment.
Bill Gates hasn't worked hands on with any of the products or product teams in years. His only involvement is at a board/advisory type level involved in overall strategy for MS - he officially stepped away from that over a year ago as well. He hasn't actively worked on a product at MS since ~2006-2007.
That is a load of rubbish - automatic updates on Windows rarely works well let alone amazingly...
I discovered that my optical output went to 2-channel only. I no longer have any surround options on my optical output, I checked two other rigs in the house and they all have the same issue.
I was running surround for years and, somewhere along the way someone decided that 2 channels are fine.
I have an old 7 drive I could boot up. I bet surround sound still works fine on the optical output there.
I was running surround for years and, somewhere along the way someone decided that 2 channels are fine.
I have an old 7 drive I could boot up. I bet surround sound still works fine on the optical output there.
Optical and surround audio are problematic at the best of times and require a dedicated setup to actually work without using compressed formats, etc. but that is a lot of the problem with 10 - stuff which works for years fine in 7 - you might become to rely on a feature in 10 only for someone to randomly decide to remove it, usually to try and force another underused feature to be more popular, at random, etc.
Wow! Got an apostle here. What rattled @AthlonXP1800 's cage today after all these months with very little discussion for Windows 10. It reads like their child getting bullied in school. Reminds me of the early 2000s on Neowin.
What I don't understand is that after all this time they don't seem to have taken on board that the problem is the options for the end user to mitigate the impact on their use of the OS and not a claim that these issues don't exist on other (older) OSes.
If anything the updates experience on 7 was more problematic than 10, but you could change the behaviour of the OS, and it would respect those settings, to avoid it conflicting with your usage - in 10 that is largely taken out of your hands and you need to do some serious tinkering with the command line, etc. to even somewhat affect that - and even that isn't a complete solution.
In 10 the end user is treated like a product.
Thing is there isn't a good reason not to cater for both - you can have a curated experience which is the default for most people but still have the options there, even if it is walled via say professional vs home editions of an OS, etc.
Might not be the same for everyone but I'm happy within reason to pay to get what I want - I can accept that I might not be the typical "home" user and pay more for the professional edition to get something more suited to my needs. But instead MS developers have their heads up their behinds, treating the end user like a product and don't care about quality of life experience.
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Not really, there are different OS versions that have certain functions. A stripped version would be something like Windows 10 LTSC.
I don't get any problems at all compared to say installing the "Windows 10 Pro Version".I'm still on 1809 now and intend to stay like this until the OS breaks as I don't require any more features beyond this. I just want it to stop breaking (If it ever does that is.) so moved to LTSC.
Got the message today that my windows 10 install is too old and wont be getting updated. I'm stuck on 1909 update as it refuses to install anything after that. I've tried updating with next to everything unplugged and it still failed. Only thing i didn't do was removing my graphics card. Tried a couple of the update recommendations which i saw here and through Microsoft but to no avail. My machine does everything i need it to do and have no desire to upgrade it any time soon (10yr old build) but good old Microsoft won't make any money out of that. 
I had a customer on 1803 as their server as Windows updates has been disabled by their IT.Got the message today that my windows 10 install is too old and wont be getting updated. I'm stuck on 1909 update as it refuses to install anything after that. I've tried updating with next to everything unplugged and it still failed. Only thing i didn't do was removing my graphics card. Tried a couple of the update recommendations which i saw here and through Microsoft but to no avail. My machine does everything i need it to do and have no desire to upgrade it any time soon (10yr old build) but good old Microsoft won't make any money out of that.
It will remain working but once the build goes EOL you cannot install anything on it unless its from the Microsoft store or you update Windows. I just referred them to their IT as I could not install what the customer wanted due to this.
Make sure you have what you want installed otherwise you will be stuck with no options.
Another ridiculous measure by MS - even if well intended - warning you is one thing hard blocking is another. There are a couple of ways around (allowing apps from anywhere doesn't work for every situation) it but obviously updating is better if you can but some people do have good reasons for staying on an older version i.e. needing specific hardware compatibility for legacy stuff, etc.
I have no idea why MS don't do the intelligent thing and properly separate out security, driver/software and feature updates so people can properly update things as makes most sense for their use and put some focus into the deployment of security updates to make them as seamless as possible - see as security is oh such a big deal for them.............
I have no idea why MS don't do the intelligent thing and properly separate out security, driver/software and feature updates so people can properly update things as makes most sense for their use and put some focus into the deployment of security updates to make them as seamless as possible - see as security is oh such a big deal for them.............
Looking online 1909 is already EOL, this went EOL on the 11th of May 2021 and 2004 goes EOL December 2021.
I know their is ways around it but the PC was not supplied by us and their IT manage it so I was not going to waste my time on something I didn't gave too.
I would by annoyed if Microsoft blocked me doing stuff on my personal PC as surely they have no right in doing this as its not their PC