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Poll: Winter Is Coming - HBO's A Game of Thrones [READ WARNING]

Discussion in 'Music, Box Office, TV & Books' started by Hostile_18, Aug 3, 2009.

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Who will rule Westeros?

Poll closed May 18, 2019.
  1. Daenerys Targaryen

    6.8%
  2. Jon Snow / Aegon Targaryen

    30.8%
  3. Sansa Stark

    13.8%
  4. Arya Stark

    8.1%
  5. Bran Stark

    2.1%
  6. Sam Tarley

    3.0%
  7. Tyrion Lannister

    9.8%
  8. Jamie Lannister

    0.8%
  9. Cersei Lannister

    2.1%
  10. Gendry

    10.8%
  11. Brienne of Tarth

    1.3%
  12. The Night King

    4.9%
  13. Other (please specify)

    5.7%
  1. ttaskmaster

    Sgarrista

    Joined: Sep 11, 2013

    Posts: 8,539

    Location: Reading, UK

    Why does everyone complain about her flip?
    She didn't flip. It's been a slow decline over several seasons. Ever since she started breaking chains, her advisor characters were on at her to be careful she didn't become the tyrant herself... Now that Jorah is dead and Missandei is dead and Varys is dead and anyone else she'd have listened to is dead, she just carries on descending into the blatantly obvious and inevitable...
     
  2. Washout

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Jul 2, 2003

    Posts: 1,619

    Perhaps snap would be a better word? I fully agree with the above but in either case it's a jump from trying to take the city to razing it out of spite.
     
  3. james.miller

    Capodecina

    Joined: Aug 17, 2003

    Posts: 17,560

    Location: Woburn Sand Dunes

    People need to stop with the 'critical judgement' and 'critical thinking' BS - that's the sort of nonsense peddled by the least objective people on the forum.
     
  4. Nitefly

    Man of Honour

    Joined: Sep 24, 2005

    Posts: 31,006

    Yeh, you’ve said this a number of times and it simply comes across as “those who don’t think like me are wrong and/or stupid”. I guess everyone is exhibiting themselves with their posts :o
     
  5. ttaskmaster

    Sgarrista

    Joined: Sep 11, 2013

    Posts: 8,539

    Location: Reading, UK

    Nah, she was brewing that particular tantrum from the moment she realised she was a stranger in Westeros and that nobody adored and worshipped her, like she was used to. The revelation of 'Aegon Targaryan' only made things even worse. This was her version of getting upset over the golden crown she was promised, basically...
     
  6. CaptainRAVE

    Man of Honour

    Joined: Nov 21, 2004

    Posts: 31,091

    The bit about the dragons vs the ships gets me every time. Also when they talk about time for fleshing out characters.

    Funny, I was stoked about them doing Star Wars. Ironically Star Wars killed game of thrones and simultaneously revealed how much their writing sucks that has this diminished my excitement for star wars. Funny how things work out.
     
  7. wolfie138

    Mobster

    Joined: Jun 8, 2013

    Posts: 2,792

    would really love for it to get the Emmy. the boards would explode for weeks w/ "WTF???!" vs "hah! told you it was good!" vs "hell-o! Chernobyl!!!""
     
  8. Nitefly

    Man of Honour

    Joined: Sep 24, 2005

    Posts: 31,006

    I didn’t want to contaminate (lul) the Chernobyl thread but I do think the praise for that show is kind of a protest against the frustrations with GOT. The final episode of Chernobyl is incredible but being a well made concise docudrama it is utterly invincible to the sorts of criticisms aimed at GOT. As I said in that thread, the characters in that show aren’t interesting / compelling until the very final episode when it all comes together. Great show and I won’t take that away from it, but the hype for it is definitely compounded because of GOT.
     
  9. wolfie138

    Mobster

    Joined: Jun 8, 2013

    Posts: 2,792

    um...show your working for that, as my teachers used to say. you seem to be saying the only people watching/rating Chernobyl are disgruntled GoT fans on some sort of revenge kick. the rest is all your opinion that you're entitled to, but I found the characters very compelling/intereting by the very fact that they were [mostly] real people doing real things that caused real issues. and it's not "invincible" if you're talking about the writing/plotting aspect - it could very easily have been done as a piece of **** ~ for an execrable telling of a real event/tragedy, look what Cameron did for Titanic, as an example.
     
  10. ttaskmaster

    Sgarrista

    Joined: Sep 11, 2013

    Posts: 8,539

    Location: Reading, UK

    Disagree - As a binge-watcher, I hadn't even seen GOT S8 until after I'd gotten into Chernobyl.

    Err... have you seen the internet?
    It's absolutely bursting with criticisms on everything, from how nobody was fat in Soviet society, to how they should not have written a composite character, to how artistic decisions like how the helicopter incident was implemented ****** all over the memory of those people, to how using the wrong rifle to shoot a dog utterly undermines the integrity of the entire series, to how having schoolgirls in the wrong colour of dress exposes the director as a lying scumbag.....
    If that's your idea of immunity, I'll not be trusting this lead apron you gave me for the rooftop...!! :p

    TBH, I don't think they're especially compelling at all... Accounts of those who knew the real people suggest they are not accurate anyway, but at the same time it's about many people as a collective. It's about the bigger picture, rather than the individuals as they come together, which is where GOT differs and is almost the opposite.
     
  11. Nitefly

    Man of Honour

    Joined: Sep 24, 2005

    Posts: 31,006

    In respect of the bit in bold, that’s not what I said - read it again :p

    Edit - you know what... I wasn’t very clear! So I’ll let you have that! Please interpret the rest of my post accordingly :)

    I said the hype for Chernobyl is, I believe, in response to GOT (and possibly the lack of any other memorable docudrama in recent times - I can’t think of any).

    Chernobyl was a 5 episode docudrama - it had a defined ending. It would be almost impossible to ruin any ‘long character arcs’ which seems to be the major GOT criticism. It’s not invincible to ALL criticisms - it was still a good show, as I said.

    In fact, here’s what I did say in the Chernobyl thread:

    Hope that clears it up!
     
    Last edited: Jun 12, 2019
  12. Maccy

    Commissario

    Joined: Nov 23, 2004

    Posts: 35,263

    Location: Back in Blighty

    Can we nuke this thread yet?
     
  13. ttaskmaster

    Sgarrista

    Joined: Sep 11, 2013

    Posts: 8,539

    Location: Reading, UK

    No can do. Gotta burn it with dragonfire, innit...!

    Drakarse!!
     
  14. Maccy

    Commissario

    Joined: Nov 23, 2004

    Posts: 35,263

    Location: Back in Blighty

    Probably already been posted somewhere but...yolo

    [​IMG]
     
  15. CaptainRAVE

    Man of Honour

    Joined: Nov 21, 2004

    Posts: 31,091

    She kind of forgot about the iron fleet. I know a killer when I see one (having just witnessed the entire city bring levelled).

    Let’s give them a writing Emmy!
     
  16. SixTwoSix

    Sgarrista

    Joined: Sep 14, 2007

    Posts: 9,706

    Location: Rugby

    So, the most emmy nominations of any show ever with 32 nominations. The most any show has had since NYPD Blue in 1994 I believe.

    Let the fury and fervour commence. :D

    In all seriousness, despite the drop in story telling quality, it's deserving of a fair few of them.
     
  17. V_R

    Sgarrista

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    Location: UK

  18. ttaskmaster

    Sgarrista

    Joined: Sep 11, 2013

    Posts: 8,539

    Location: Reading, UK

    HBO knew that Chernobyl was coming...
     
  19. wolfie138

    Mobster

    Joined: Jun 8, 2013

    Posts: 2,792

    and then apparently posted "THANK YOU UNIVERSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. I can't believe it!!" like it was a complete surprise? I hope there's an Emmy for cringe levels.
    nice to see people w/ a little level of humility these days. they could look to Keanu Reeves for a few lessons.
     
  20. V_R

    Sgarrista

    Joined: Jan 17, 2007

    Posts: 8,105

    Location: UK

    D&D have backed out of Comic Con now. I wonder why...?