While "triggered" is meme word used to devalue opinion, it does bother me when someone tells me how awful my country is especially when I don't feel I agree. Tell a Scot that Scotland is rubbish he'd probably smack you in the face.
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While "triggered" is meme word used to devalue opinion, it does bother me when someone tells me how awful my country is especially when I don't feel I agree. Tell a Scot that Scotland is rubbish he'd probably smack you in the face.
Just like "woke" and "sjw" then.
It is a crap state of affairs that 3 lads who got us to the final are receiving racism. It is a worse state of affairs if the sentiment of the country is to accept this.
I dont think anyone is saying England is awful, just some of the people in it. So called England fans disgracing themselves and the view of our country to the outside world once again being involved in violence before and after the game, booing another teams anthem etc. The Scot would probably smack you in the mouth for being a lying ****
Actually I think it was the other way round. I think it was used legitimately in mental health circles to denote a specific event or stimulus that brought on a negative response, and then it got adopted into wider parlance just to mean anyone who responds to anything about anything.
Much like woke, it always has a normal source but has since become a meme.
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That is nonsense. Any player can be criticised and in the heat of that moment I was furious with Rashford for not just hitting the ball but trying to be clever. I hate these clever pens that some players take, they can all put it in the corner of the net in their sleep. However after I'd calmed down I know the pressure they all must have felt was something I'll never experience. I was racked with nerves doing my car test at 17 and bike test at 29, both could be easily repeated and didn't have the weight of a country and a stadium weighing on my shoulders.
So anyone is free to criticise those players, just as every player before them that missed got criticism. However its harsh to do so after the emotions have calmed down. Nothing any of us say will ever make them feel worse than they do already. Those misses with likely haunt them forever.
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This. Most of our fan base is well behaved and respectful but a significant minority are just thugs who once they are fuelled with alcohol just let loose as the full on knuckle draggers they are. Smashing up their own cities or other countries cities if we are playing abroad. Urinating in the streets, fighting each other if they can't find any opposition to fight. It is saying something about our society. Yes every country has such fans but it always happens with England fans, Russian 2018 maybe being the exception as they knew if they kicked off there they'd likely get their heads caved in and would be spending time being violated in Russian prisons. We really don't deserve nice things until we deal with these people. Jonathon Pie's latest video is bang on in that respect.
I can't say the multi-racial criteria hadn't crossed my mind. Maybe it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario.
- All more experienced [and coincidentally white] penalty takers - we win and people accuse Southgate of racism which can never be disproven.
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- Mixed penalty line-up, we lose - but no-one can say Southgate is racist.
Racism > *
The most powerful and misused word of the 21st century.
The way Labour and the media have responded to a hand full of racist comments online originating in the UK suggests it's not nonsense.
The graffiti on his mural was not racist, but the media frame it that way to fit their narrative. I completely agree that shortly after there would have been a lot of anger from fans, which is probably why many of the comments were made, and why the mural was vandalised. I suspect like you many of them calmed down afterwards and then regretted their actions.
I don't blame the players at all, I blame the manager for selecting them.
I believe it has least partially has to do with it, either giving black players the opportunity but they failed to step up or he was chasing the headline of "3 black lions" for an England win for the "good of the sport" I suppose he had good intentions but in the end, this shows up the fallacy of diversity over the best man for the job regardless of colour.
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Wow some of you are way over thinking this. You seriously think the race of the players even entered his head for one second? These coaches and players work with each other every day. Do you honestly think they even think about skin colour? He said he made his choice on what they did in training. Personally I only have issue with Saka at no5, that is too much pressure for a 19 year old who only broke through last season and doesn't take pens for his club.
Stop putting race into everything, you are as bad as the opposite side of the coin you profess such distain for.
Can't say I disagree with anything you've written here. I believe that a multi-racial line-up was a consideration and potentially [emphasis - potentially] cost us the match.
*incoming theoretical scenario*
First two scorers are white. Southgate thinks, "hmm, we need a black player" and believes Rashford could possibly do the job. If he can't, well, he'll get more experienced players in.
Rashford fumbles the penalty. Southgate thinks "crap, I could get Grealish in but if the next two are white then people will say I'm/we're racist because the black player failed the job".
He chooses Sancho, it fails.
He chooses Saka, it fails.
*theoretical scenario ends*
Maybe the players didn't take their medals off because of the fact they lost. Maybe it's because of how they lost. Maybe they weren't annoyed with Southgate as such, but the whole ridiculous system.
It's like e.g. Firefox hiring to meet a diversity quota and a few weeks later the security certificates expire on everyone's browser.
Well, the entire team did 'take the knee' before the match so racial equality is very important to them [as is making a display of it].
I'm not saying it categorically is the case in my theoretical scenario above. Just that it could be.
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I can happily blame Rashford for his showboating and hitting the post. The other two young lads having shots on target that were saved is just part of the penalty luck lottery. The enormous pressure of the event can’t have helped, especially for the poor bugger that had only been on the pitch for 2-3 minutes beforehand.
There’s some garbage in this thread but this is absolutely top of that pile. What a load of nonsense this is. Wow.
You'll have to forgive my scepticism regarding anything that dowie trumpets as being proof that something is going on.
Nice to see that everyone is onboard with the idea that foreign governments want to sow chaos in this manner now though. Back when it was the Brexit campaigns going on it was absolutely impossible
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I don't know a lot about football but thought the booing of the Italian national anthem was a disgrace personally. I saw various people I usually like defending it like because it was part of our "culture". It just didn't sit well with me at all.
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Yes so did the Italians. They take the knee because they are sick of the racist crap their mates and team mates have to put up with. They are also making the wider point that racism is still an issue. They, like you or I can take a stand on an issue, you wouldn't want someone else telling you what you can or can't protest or what that protest actually means to you, they are fully aware of why they are protesting. They'll stop doing it when they feel it is no longer necessary and not before.
As for your theoretical scenario, it is utter tosh and an insult to the coaching staff and players.
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