World first QD-OLED monitor from Dell and Samsung (34 inch Ultrawide 175hz)
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Alienware 34 QD-OLED (AW3423DW) gaming monitor review | PC Gamer
LCD still has better latency according to them, something about pixel shifting due to the anti burn in measures, sounds a bit annoying if you can notice it.
Guess I'll be sticking with my LG27GP950 a while.
LCD still has better latency according to them, something about pixel shifting due to the anti burn in measures, sounds a bit annoying if you can notice it.
Guess I'll be sticking with my LG27GP950 a while.
Did you read the article? Pc gamer put out rubbish all the time and this is no different
They did not measure any latency, yet in their summary they say latency is not great. I begrudgingly read through the whole thing and the only thing they says about latency is this
"when it comes to refresh rates and therefore latency, LCD monitors with 360Hz-plus refresh are clearly quicker. Latency is traditionally a weak point for OLED, and while we didn’t sense any subjective issue with this 175Hz monitor, there’s little doubt that if your gaming fun and success hinges on having the lowest possible latency, there are faster screens available."
That's it, they simply "think" 360hz monitor has lower latency without actually measuring Jack squat and forgetting (or claiming ignorance) to tell the reader that every single 360hz monitor in the world today has massive blurring problems at 360hz because the pixels on LCD screens simply can't switch fast enough to reach 360hz without clipping
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Interestingly it is the input lag at 3.3ms compared to gaming monitors that are 1ms or less (see link below) that I think they are referencing rather than latency but they got all their terminology wrong. It also seems that these monitors really are not colour accurate from most reviews giving figures. There also zero USB ports on the monitor so that has 100% killed my purchase as I cannot run my setup without utilising monitor USB connections. Hopefully this tech keeps improving and next year there another contender with all the features needed and no stupid locked menu preset setups.
https://uk.pcmag.com/monitors/139129/alienware-34-qd-oled-aw3423dw
https://uk.pcmag.com/monitors/139129/alienware-34-qd-oled-aw3423dw
There will be many more oled monitors and models from other companies this year I'm sure so just hand in there. 3.3ms is very good, so total latency is 3.4ms then (3.3ms input + 0.1ms response = 3.4ms total latency) - it will be hard for other monitors to do that
Soldato
The link you posted states:
"You get two USB 3.2 Gen 1 downstream ports on the front, and two USB 3.2 Gen 1 downstreams on the back, next to another USB 3.2 Gen 1 upstream."
As long as input lag is below refresh rate of the monitor(1/175=5.7ms) even robot cannot feel it. So making 3.3ms as a 'con' just shows they dont know what they are talking about.
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The link you posted states:
"You get two USB 3.2 Gen 1 downstream ports on the front, and two USB 3.2 Gen 1 downstreams on the back, next to another USB 3.2 Gen 1 upstream."
It does but the other two reviews I watched YT wise stated nothing there which really odd. I assume they didn't look or someone read a spec sheet somewhere? One that states no USB was the calibration video above.
It just shows that most youtubers are below average morons who cant even get the spec sheet right.
Soldato
Okay so that would be fine for all the refesh rates then since its peak is 175 and you would need at least 330 refresh rate then?
I mean one of them was a calibration specialist whom was with monitor in person and stated it?
Yes, that's correct, 3.3ms is fine up to 300Hz give or take(with some reserve for IL dips)
Well calibrations specialist does not really mean anything. Anyone who purchased calibration gear can be a calibration specialist
He may be good at calibration for sure(given his video history), but omission of usb ports when they are just below the screen on a frame is a bit...underwhelming to say the least.
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Yes, that's correct, 3.3ms is fine up to 300Hz give or take(with some reserve for IL dips)
Well calibrations specialist does not really mean anything. Anyone who purchased calibration gear can be a calibration specialist
Yeah no worries. Thanks for info and know what you mean. Just seemed he was switched on and understood so missing something like that is odd. But that is good news that it does have such then. I am still of issue that the colour accuracy for my day job for Architectural rendering and that might not be good enough. Maybe I am overthinking it and it really isn't too bad?
I think you are overthinking the delta E. I would presume that material and sample variation in architecture would be much higher than delta e on this monitor - but I may be wrong.
Just to add to the above comments, you can find confirmation of USB ports on the official documentation located here - https://dl.dell.com/content/manual9259641-alienware-aw3423dw-monitor-user-s-guide.pdf?language=en-us
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Here you go: https://dl.dell.com/content/manual9259641-alienware-aw3423dw-monitor-user-s-guide.pdf?language=en-us
Definitely has USB - 2 on the back, 2 on the bottom
Edit: bah, beaten
No, stop people, the less people getting one means a better chance of me getting one! 
I'll still give this a go, if there is bad eye strain, it'll just have to go back.
Not bothered about having perfect accuracy, as long as it isn't far of I'll be happy but then again I don't do any colour critical work, definitely is a bit of an oversight tbf and can't help but feel that will be saved for the "ultrasharp" model.....
I'll still give this a go, if there is bad eye strain, it'll just have to go back.
Not bothered about having perfect accuracy, as long as it isn't far of I'll be happy but then again I don't do any colour critical work, definitely is a bit of an oversight tbf and can't help but feel that will be saved for the "ultrasharp" model.....
Soldato
Cheers for input. Utilise real world photo and video data at site and getting that correct to set from the rest of the rendering of the structure working on is generally what I have done when producing images & videos to get them as close to accurate as possible but it isn't particularly important for most client and probably just my obsession to get the detail right and show as close to accurate as possible for my clients.
The office monitors are all Dell Ultrasharp which have been calibrated but working at home sometimes is no good for that work as I haven't been able to justify the cost to buy and calibrate myself. With this monitor though I was hoping I could make it work for both work and gaming but the limitations of the monitor and calibrating seem pretty high to get that level of detail.
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No, stop people, the less people getting one means a better chance of me getting one!
I'll still give this a go, if there is bad eye strain, it'll just have to go back.
Not bothered about having perfect accuracy, as long as it isn't far of I'll be happy but then again I don't do any colour critical work, definitely is a bit of an oversight tbf and can't help but feel that will be saved for the "ultrasharp" model.....
Ha, yeah I have flipflopped a few times on this last week. It is calibration or getting someone able too that worries me. The idea of OLED is being accurate and giving the best colour volume at same time. But maybe I should suck it up, try it. If generally happy get it professionally calibrated. I have 23% off thanks to a student at work so it not like it silly monies and what I save I can use to calibrate.
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Well unless something changes soon then it's either this or the LG C1 (OLED48C14LB) for me. The C1 I can get for £930 + 1.65% cashback - But it is a 48" TV which makes for a really good and colour calibration friendly monitor too. It would mean I need to change my desktop though as will need to wall mount it since the stand is so space consuming.
Would look great however on a wall in front of the desk.
I saw the C1 on a reddit post last night which looked great wall mounted as a monitor and asked the OP, they calibrated with the i1Display Pro which is what I have so I'm more than satisfied with that.
LG's display scaling from what I have read is very good too (and case in point when I used to play games at 2560x1080 on this 34UM95 when my old GFX couldn't handle 3440x1440 too well) so don't have to run games at 4K if the 3080 Ti can't keep up the frames.
Food for thought...
Edit* And this review especially when he switched to 21
9 res in a dark room was just eprfect lol:
48" 21:9?!
Would look great however on a wall in front of the desk.
I saw the C1 on a reddit post last night which looked great wall mounted as a monitor and asked the OP, they calibrated with the i1Display Pro which is what I have so I'm more than satisfied with that.
LG's display scaling from what I have read is very good too (and case in point when I used to play games at 2560x1080 on this 34UM95 when my old GFX couldn't handle 3440x1440 too well) so don't have to run games at 4K if the 3080 Ti can't keep up the frames.
Food for thought...
Edit* And this review especially when he switched to 21
9 res in a dark room was just eprfect lol:48" 21:9?!
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