World first QD-OLED monitor from Dell and Samsung (34 inch Ultrawide 175hz)

[Howling]

I only bought my AW3821DW in January last year.... *whelp* time for an upgrade ... cost dependent anyway. £1500 (maybe £1800 if they're feeling extra cheeky) is probably the price cap for any real volume of sales. If they're looking £2k+ they're basically saying they don't want to move many they just want the "first to market" title.. I'm basing this on the current roster of AW monitors and the pricing of OLED tvs, price it too much over the TV equivalent (LG's upcoming 42" and 48") and they'll just be redirecting sales to LG - why buy a 34" OLED monitor for £2000 when you could get a 42" OLED for ~half?

Told you guys that they'd price sensibly as the 42/48" OLEDs and the other 34/38" Ultrawides are the competition. It still comes in a little cheaper than I expected, though honestly - considering how much I was poo-poo'd for this, I think I was pretty darn close

 

[EsaT]

That's a stale argument, I mean dude, I bought my first 4k gaming monitor in 2011... so by your logic those LG's are junk they should be 8k or 16k

Farmers would get sanctioned for spreading that much BS around.
At that time there were hardly any 4K monitors!
Except maybe some special use/professional models certainly not caring about input lag.
And TVs have traditionally cared even less about input lag.
Even if some maker had wanted to make low input lag model, doubt there were panel controller chips capable to low input lag.

 

[Nexus18]

I am thinking if it turns out to be better than the LG 42” C2 and with some work vouchers I can get it down to around £1000 I may consider it. Trouble is going down to 1440p… I am just hoping as it is OLED it will blow me away and make it less of an issue. The bonus will be I will be able to get a RTX 4070 and that would run everything 60fps+ with ease

So far every time I have gone back to 1440p I have struggled due to losing sharpness and IQ. Worst case I will just return it I guess.

OLED/panel tech >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resolution

Even 1080P on my 55" oled looks better than my 3440x1440 ips Obviously if you move closer, you notice the ppi though

This being QD etc. too, in theory, the IQ should be even better than the LG oleds so yeah being 4k isn't something I would be overly concerned about tbh, especially since nvidias DLDSR is good (still not as good as native)

Told you guys that they'd price sensibly as the 42/48" OLEDs and the other 34/38" Ultrawides are the competition. It still comes in a little cheaper than I expected, though honestly - considering how much I was poo-poo'd for this, I think I was pretty darn close

It is extremely unusual though given that the first QD OLED TV is to be coming in at £8k and we all know the TV market is far superior when it comes to bang per buck.

Honestly not sure how they have managed to get this at such a low price given everything, they must have cut corners somewhere or/and there will be severe QC issues or they just want to make a real dent in the market so are selling for next to no margin.

 

[EsaT]

Honestly not sure how they have managed to get this at such a low price given everything, they must have cut corners somewhere or/and there will be severe QC issues or they just want to make a real dent in the market so are selling for next to no margin.

Samsung is certainly big enough conglomerate to be able to afford foregoing profits to shake monitor market for long term market share.
But can't see Alienware being willing to forego profit margins for any longer duration.

 

[Journey]

Chatting out your rear again I see. There were no 4K gaming monitors back in 2011…

Haha totally called them out there, I've noticed this a lot as well though, posting to cause and argument or say something, rather than just not bothering.

IIRC the very first 4K TV didn't come out until 2012.

 

[TNA]

OLED/panel tech >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resolution

Even 1080P on my 55" oled looks better than my 3440x1440 ips Obviously if you move closer, you notice the ppi though

This being QD etc. too, in theory, the IQ should be even better than the LG oleds so yeah being 4k isn't something I would be overly concerned about tbh, especially since nvidias DLDSR is good (still not as good as native)

This is exactly what I am hoping is the case. Hence why I said if I can get it for around 1K I will and worst case return it. But chances are I would keep it as the IQ as you say would be so much better. Would be a relief actually as I can then stick at that lower res for a very very long time making upgrading GPU’s relatively cheaper as I do not need silly high fps to enjoy games

 

[TNA]

Haha totally called them out there, I've noticed this a lot as well though, posting to cause and argument or say something, rather than just not bothering.

IIRC the very first 4K TV didn't come out until 2012.

He just did it again here

This is why people still find it hard to take him serious. He has improved a lot compared to a year or so ago, but then goes and makes nonsensical emotional posts like that and ruins it. Maybe he will get there next year

 

[Nexus18]

This is exactly what I am hoping is the case. Hence why I said if I can get it for around 1K I will and worst case return it. But chances are I would keep it as the IQ as you say would be so much better. Would be a relief actually as I can then stick at that lower res for a very very long time making upgrading GPU’s relatively cheaper as I do not need silly high fps to enjoy games

True. 3440x1440 is a nice res. and rather easy to run with likes of 3070 and above

I'm wondering what to do, apparently pre-orders can be done via their site, usually I would never pre-order but...

- I badly want it
- Limited stock potentially so might have to wait a while
- potential price drops not long after or price could go up if demand is crazy and stock is ****
- potential QC issues, don't really want to be playing panel lottery

 

[Howling]

I'm wondering what to do, apparently pre-orders can be done via their site, usually I would never pre-order but...

Where? I can't find it anywhere

 

[Nexus18]

Where? I can't find it anywhere

Not till march for preorders.

 

[TNA]

True. 3440x1440 is a nice res. and rather easy to run with likes of 3070 and above

I'm wondering what to do, apparently pre-orders can be done via their site, usually I would never pre-order but...

- I badly want it
- Limited stock potentially so might have to wait a while
- potential price drops not long after or price could go up if demand is crazy and stock is ****
- potential QC issues, don't really want to be playing panel lottery

I will need to see reviews before buying and pre-order means likely buying directly which means no discount for me, so that’s a no no

Will let you beta test for me and let me know how it goes

 

[MikeLoader]

Dont get the talk about it beying lowres. I mean it's just a 27 inch with more h+ space - so whats the problem. The PPI on a 27 1440P (as my PG279Q) is high, it's perfect for that size!

The Only Damn thing holding me of is the space. I mean it's just as my 27 (vertical) with more on the sides hmm

Dont you guys wish it was, atleasts, say a 32 16:19 insteed. I allways game on my CX since getting it, as I of course cant use my PG279Q any longer as we all know all LCD are trash, after going OLED!

So the only problem for me is the space - would love some more, and going UW, dont know if I would like it actually!

But wow what a dream monitor this will be. Total insane specs, and for that price. Yeah it's unbelivable really!

So you guys, can you downsize without problem, as the specs is just to out of this world to ignore?

This will definetly, or should put the C2 to shame - 175 hz + QD tech ( brighter / better colours etc) and a g-sync module. Frikking insane, to say the least, and damn if I dont want it ..LOL!!

 

[Random Guy Esq.]

Initially I was absolutely set on getting a 4K 32" (whenever OLED/QD-OLED became available at a reasonable price), but I've since changed my mind because of the state of the GPU market. Moving to 4K means I'd have to upgrade my GPU sooner rather than later, which is a terrifying prospect for my wallet. 1440P UWS shouldn't be a problem for my current card.

 

[Nexus18]

Dont get the talk about it beying lowres. I mean it's just a 27 inch with more h+ space - so whats the problem. The PPI on a 27 1440P (as my PG279Q) is high, it's perfect for that size!

The Only Damn thing holding me of is the space. I mean it's just as my 27 (vertical) with more on the sides hmm

Dont you guys wish it was, atleasts, say a 32 16:19 insteed. I allways game on my CX since getting it, as I of course cant use my PG279Q any longer as we all know all LCD are trash, after going OLED!

So the only problem for me is the space - would love some more, and going UW, dont know if I would like it actually!

But wow what a dream monitor this will be. Total insane specs, and for that price. Yeah it's unbelivable really!

So you guys, can you downsize without problem, as the specs is just to out of this world to ignore?

This will definetly, or should put the C2 to shame - 175 hz + QD tech ( brighter / better colours etc) and a g-sync module. Frikking insane, to say the least, and damn if I dont want it ..LOL!!

Nope not at all. 34" 1440 21.9 is a million times better and more immersive than 16.9 27" any day of the week and will still be better than a 16.9 32" imo. You always see people always saying things like with these 21.9 monitors, you're sacrificing height or squashed monitor etc., which shows they have no clue on the whole point of 21.9 form factor over 16.9.

I've got both a 55" oled and 34" 1440 and obviously the 55" is superior in pretty much every way, however, I still enjoy playing a few games on my 34" when sat at the desk with a m+k, it just simply feels more immersive, of course, you can (and I do) use a custom 21.9 res. on a 16.9 display, which works great as the screen is so big already and with true blacks, you don't really notice nor care for the black bars at the top and bottom of the screen but it's still not quite the same as a 21.9 form factor overall imo.

 

[MikeLoader]

Nope not at all. 34" 1440 21.9 is a million times better and more immersive than 16.9 27" any day of the week and will still be better than a 16.9 32" imo. You always see people always saying things like with these 21.9 monitors, you're sacrificing height or squashed monitor etc., which shows they have no clue on the whole point of 21.9 form factor over 16.9.

I've got both a 55" oled and 34" 1440 and obviously the 55" is superior in pretty much every way, however, I still enjoy playing a few games on my 34" when sat at the desk with a m+k, it just simply feels more immersive, of course, you can (and I do) use a custom 21.9 res. on a 16.9 display, which works great as the screen is so big already and with true blacks, you don't really notice nor care for the black bars at the top and bottom of the screen but it's still not quite the same as a 21.9 form factor overall imo.

Great answer Nexus!
Yeah I absolutely get that it will be way more immersive vs my 27 inch, but still that IMO little vertical space. But oh well I probably can live with it for a while - hence the supperior specs, and go bigger later down the track!

Oh my CX is also 55 and as I said I love it. Never tried UW res on it tho. But know I can!

Well all this and that, on what to do..Annyhow I can allways just test it and if it still feels to smal, I can return it. I guess thats the best thing to do!

Thanks for the reply!!

 

[EsaT]

Dont get the talk about it beying lowres. I mean it's just a 27 inch...

And that's precisely the issue.
27" 16:9 is just mediocre sized and its image height is little less than what I had already dozen years ago.
And it's soon 8 years 2 months since I started using 30" 2560x1600 with almost 7cm bigger image height.

Nope not at all. 34" 1440 21.9 is a million times better and more immersive than 16.9 27" any day of the week and will still be better than a 16.9 32" imo. You always see people always saying things like with these 21.9 monitors, you're sacrificing height or squashed monitor etc., which shows they have no clue on the whole point of 21.9 form factor over 16.9.

I'm perfectly clued on it being marketing ploy for selling less of display panel as more.
Every time they cut image height lower, they can sell less panel area with same marketing size.
While you seem to lack the clue of difference between colon and period...
And actually 3440x1440 isn't 21:9, but even lower 43:18.

36" 16:9 would take precisely same desk space, while having full third higher image height for far higher work usability.
And self emissive pixel tech would do pitch black perfect letterboxing without glowy areas, if wanting to flatten field of vision.
What's wrong in having such flexibility, or are you just wanting to take choise away from consumer?

 

[Nexus18]

And that's precisely the issue.
27" 16:9 is just mediocre sized and its image height is little less than what I had already dozen years ago.
And it's soon 8 years 2 months since I started using 30" 2560x1600 with almost 7cm bigger image height.


I'm perfectly clued on it being marketing ploy for selling less of display panel as more.
Every time they cut image height lower, they can sell less panel area with same marketing size.
While you seem to lack the clue of difference between colon and period...
And actually 3440x1440 isn't 21:9, but even lower 43:18.

36" 16:9 would take precisely same desk space, while having full third higher image height for far higher work usability.
And self emissive pixel tech would do pitch black perfect letterboxing without glowy areas, if wanting to flatten field of vision.
What's wrong in having such flexibility, or are you just wanting to take choise away from consumer?

Oooof, someone's jimmies rustled

And case in point @MikeLoader


Explain how it's a marketing ploy exactly?

UW has been around for quite a long time now and isn't showing any signs of going away, same way people said "curve", "hdr" etc. was a "gimmick", "marketing ploy" etc. It reminds me of all the people that still whinge on about 16.10 and how it was a superior ar to anything else when it really wasn't hence why it's basically a dead ar now...

Don't complain to me about providing choice (not spelt choise), I'm not the one making these displays, I got no problem with 16.9 or any kind of display, just find it hilarious when people spout of about 21.9 and they don't have a clue

 

[Grim5]

Just the buy the monitor size that suits your needs, you guys don't need to **** on others for their purchase it's their money, worry about yourself

 

[Nexus18]

Just the buy the monitor size that suits your needs, you guys don't need to **** on others for their purchase it's their money, worry about yourself

Exactly.

It's very weird how 21.9 gets so much hate, you don't see many, if any at all going into 16.9 display based threads giving of about the downfalls of their AR....