Xbox Scorpio

RedStarRiot · 13 Jun 2017 at 11:30

£449 is still a fair whack but its better.

Thanks for the info on the Kinnect. Need to decide whether to sell the Xbox One and I would just fire the Kinnect with it I guess.

Bassmansam · 13 Jun 2017 at 11:40

ljt said:
A simple GPU upgrade would be plenty to bring that system up to date. The CPU is still very good especially if you overclocked. 16Gb ram is plenty. A GTX 1070 would be a perfect fit for future proofing 1080p or 1440p

Thanks for that, i may well consider that in a few months time, still got plenty to keep me busy on the pro at the moment though

peahead · 13 Jun 2017 at 11:45

Demon said:
I saw a post on reddit saying the One X video output supports free-sync, which might be nice as that might open the door for turning off v-sync and allowing 30-60fps with no tearing..??

Yes it does support Free-sync and actually Free-sync 2 according to microsoft.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-project-scorpio-supports-freesync-and-hdmi-vrr

ic1male · 13 Jun 2017 at 12:00

Interview with Phil Spencer here

Slightly worrying to me is when the interviewer mentions that multi-platform games could be deliberately held back on Xbone X because of Sony marketing deals. For example, if Call of Duty could run at 4K 60fps on Xbone X but it's 1800p 60 on PS4 Pro, then it will also be 1800p 60 on Xbone X. Or as another example, the PS4 Pro might not have high-res 4K textures because of the lack of RAM so the Xbone X version won't either. I really hope that doesn't happen.

Can anyone think of any examples in the past where this has happened?

Nexus18 · 13 Jun 2017 at 12:05

SwiftJump said:
So it's all about graphics then? Are games companies really going to spend extra time on xbox x versions. Like say if fifa 18 comes out, its only going to be held back because of first xbox. I can't see ea making two different versions of fifa.

It will most likely just be like the PS 4 pro i.e. 4k being the main improvement and then possibly some improvements on:

- shadows
- draw distance or/and foliage density
- textures

Developers won't have to do much at all for the consoles given that the PC versions already have the improvements/options there so it will probably just be a case of enabling the extras i.e. somewhere in a config file changing say shadowquality=1 to shadowquality=3 or something along those lines anyway.

Of course it will also depend entirely on how well the scorpio sells, if it is a bit of a flop like the ps 4 pro then I imagine much effort won't be put into it or/and the special editions/patches won't arrive for a few months till after the game has released.

jrodga2k5 · 13 Jun 2017 at 12:08

ic1male said:
Interview with Phil Spencer here

Slightly worrying to me is when the interviewer mentions that multi-platform games could be deliberately held back on Xbone X because of Sony marketing deals. For example, if Call of Duty could run at 4K 60fps on Xbone X but it's 1800p 60 on PS4 Pro, then it will also be 1800p 60 on Xbone X. Or as another example, the PS4 Pro might not have high-res 4K textures because of the lack of RAM so the Xbone X version won't either. I really hope that doesn't happen.

Can anyone think of any examples in the past where this has happened?

It's hard to think of when it's happened in the console space but I think it's smart for Phil to get the messaging out there in all honesty.

I'm certain Microsoft will be in talks with all developers over the way games are being developed and I'm also fairly certain the developers will want to be pushing their games as hard as they can on the available hardware.

If we go down the PC gaming route did we not have a few scenarios over the years where certain games performed terribly on either AMD or NVidia based on the others own individual deals.

To be honest, I can't see it happening here.

MOOGLEYS · 13 Jun 2017 at 12:10

I can see multi plat devs doing this. They will want to sell to the biggest market and to limit sales as one Pro/X version is better will not be in there best interests. I would be the Pro and X enhanced versions being the same for both unless either MS or Sony have some kind of exclusive deal with them.

cu3ed · 13 Jun 2017 at 12:12

Does anyone have dimension comparisons between the PS4 Pro and XboX?...seeing it on some vids it seems pretty amazing they have pushed this all into a smaller machine.

ic1male · 13 Jun 2017 at 12:13

MOOGLEYS said:
I can see multi plat devs doing this. They will want to sell to the biggest market and to limit sales as one Pro/X version is better will not be in there best interests. I would be the Pro and X enhanced versions being the same for both unless either MS or Sony have some kind of exclusive deal with them.

Or it could be that Sony might not be that bothered if the game looks better elsewhere as all the marketing deals they have tend to mean exclusive bits and bobs like strikes in Destiny or one-month exclusivity on Call of Duty DLC.

MOOGLEYS · 13 Jun 2017 at 12:14

The X is slightly smaller than the S. It's smaller as they have used a Vapour chamber cooling system rather than just a heatsink.

Dredd · 13 Jun 2017 at 12:17

ic1male said:
Or it could be that Sony might not be that bothered if the game looks better elsewhere as all the marketing deals they have tend to mean exclusive bits and bobs like strikes in Destiny or one-month exclusivity on Call of Duty DLC.

BF1 a microsoft deal, runs better on PS4 and PS4 Pro

i can't see EA showing video of a game not looking its best on best hardware.

ic1male · 13 Jun 2017 at 12:19

cu3ed said:
Does anyone have dimension comparisons between the PS4 Pro and XboX?...seeing it on some vids it seems pretty amazing they have pushed this all into a smaller machine.

I haven't got any pics but

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                        Height    Width   Depth
Xbox One S              11.6in    9.1in   2.5in
Xbox One X              11.8in    9.4in   2.4in
PS4 Pro                 12.8in    11.6in  2.1in
PS4 Slim                11.3in    10.4in  1.54in

https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...-vs-sony-ps4-pro-4k-specs-games-price-e3-2017

thor · 13 Jun 2017 at 13:24

Those dimensions can't be right surely..? If they are, the controller that's bundled with the X is considerably larger than the one that comes with the S!

pioneer2000 · 13 Jun 2017 at 13:56

Anyone heard whether the Atmos compatibility will be enabled for "enhanced for Xbox One X" games?

cu3ed · 13 Jun 2017 at 14:00

pioneer2000 said:
Anyone heard whether the Atmos compatibility will be enabled for "enhanced for Xbox One X" games?

Yea was on the list, come pre loaded it would seem.

jonneymendoza · 13 Jun 2017 at 14:21

time to change title of this thread?

haszek · 13 Jun 2017 at 14:42

pioneer2000 said:
Anyone heard whether the Atmos compatibility will be enabled for "enhanced for Xbox One X" games?

But Atmos was already available for Xbox S? Not many games released with it though (it comes to game designers if they implement it)

cu3ed · 13 Jun 2017 at 16:59

If ive read right, the Anthem" footage at the end of the MS conference was running from Xbox One X Pre Alpha build.

ic1male · 13 Jun 2017 at 17:02

On Assassin's Creed Origins, it will use a dynamic resolution on all console platforms. So it could mean that it won't be native 4K on the Xbone X after all.

Mark1989 · 13 Jun 2017 at 17:09

Xbox x will help ps4 pro imo as will entice devs to make us of both console power, that's what's held back ps4 pro atm it's dev teams.

Franchise games such as assassin creed I doubt will ever show the power of just one machine as there usual multi platform so devs want an easy way to get an all out at same time.

I expect Microsoft first party games however to use Xbox x power and it look amazing