***The Official Forza Motorsport 3 Thread***

And your likely to have an even better chance with 16.
Dan Greenawod says FM3 is THE definative console racer, im questioning certain factors of that.

Claiming and Providing are different things.

If you are racing complete strangers, then yes, you will have more chance of finding someone with similar abilities.


PD say their game has "the most accurate physics yet seen in a racing simulator".

Do you honestly believe that it does?

Its sales jargon, and you could tell that he is very passionate about his game. Not like the half-dead robot that sony chose to promote their game.:D
 
And your likely to have an even better chance with 16.
Dan Greenawod says FM3 is THE definative console racer, im questioning certain factors of that.

Claiming and Providing are different things.

Yeah, well how about you wait until both games are out and PROVIDE us with a full analysis then, instead of speculating and comparing two games, BOTH of which we haven't seen very much of yet.

Two games I can compare are Forza 2 and GT5P, and owning them both, I honestly think Forza 2 is much better. Even if it were a chopped down version, I prefer the gameplay.
 
And your likely to have an even better chance with 16.
To be fair your also more likely to be rammed off the track with 16 than 8 :p

I'm not worried about the lack of weather and lack of a big grid, I've got my PC sims for that. Personally I wouldn't want a full grid with changing weather conditions with anyone but people in a private league who I know can actually drive - it would be a nightmare in a public server.
 
Heh, I'm sure the FM2 thread was the same two years ago ;) :D

Then in the future it will be FM5 vs GT5 too. (yeah take that dig sony!)

Need to mark forza3 on my callender though, can not wait at all. Hope the sounds of the car engines are louder when in internal veiws. Don't want to have to look backwards and use external veiws for the sound track.
 
On the whole GT5 v FM3 thing, I love how the guy who presented FM3 at E3 kept on banging on about 'this generation' blah blah, almost saying Sony wont get GT5 out this generation.
 
I sense the xbotics are getting annoyed even though were trying to have a sensible discussion on it.. Im allowed to respond to questions so im not trying to de rail the thread merely discuss certain elements that are topical.

I dont at this stage favour one game or the other, it may turn out that the tracks or fun from FM3 could be excellent, bettering many games, even with additional cars or weather or whatever.

However we dont need to play both games to understand that if one has 2x the cars on track and changable weather or varying conditions then that those could be credible game play mechanics or a possible advantage. Oh trust me i find faults or issues with all games and GT5 will be no different nor with Dirt 2 or indeed Shift, yet i will buy them all to enjoy.

They can beef up FM3 as much as they want saying its improved here its improved there but with 8 cars thats not an improvement from FM2 nor the online fun aspects possible. In the shooting genre are online matches more fun with less players, why would it be any different with racing?
 
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I sense the xbotics are getting annoyed even though were trying to have a sensible discussion on it.. Im allowed to respond to questions so im not trying to de rail the thread merely discuss certain elements that are topical.

I own both consoles and GT5:P. I'll be buying GT5 as well. But I want you to start a new thread and compare the games there. In here I'd like to talk about how awesome Forza 3 is gonna be.
 
The problem is Mr Latte, by no fault of your own, id that people read most of your posts as negative. But don't worry, it's all fun and games.

I suspect with XBL having quite a bit of server side action that the details and physics data with tyre deformation being transmitted over your average broadband connection may be too much for the existing infastructure and net code to handle with more than 8 cars. Maybe they'll take enough flak to do something about it.
 
I wont post here any further ragarding it so i wont be a problem.
Im passionate about racing games but i dont have to suck in everything a developer trys to push.

If anything i took for granted too much of the hype on FM2 so sorry not this time. The proof of the pudding will be in the eating.

I guess things dont change much here as OcUK has too often a problem with members taking a console side, i dont care which is best, ill buy both and play the one i enjoy the most whatever it is. I dont know of many of you that will spend close to the money i will invest in this game so not one of you are in a position to question my support or desire for the title.

As for being negative, ive only been negative on things that dont by any means seem to be improved or will put FM3 behind its competition, fair discussion id say but no, you guys just talk about all the great stuff it will have believe this is the definative next gen racing game they announce it to be with more cars and tracks than any other and also the best selling.

Im more sceptical this time.....
 
thats a very one sided arguement you have ther, Mr Latte. you've come in and given then game no praise - ok fine, nothing wrong with being objective and point out possible flaws and such things. but then you are calling people who dont agree 'xbotics' even though most peopel here probably own both consoles....now your saying you wont post because ocuk never changes....

that doesnt look good does it? i dont know, but this thread seems to read that everybody else is being quite pleasant and having a nice discussion :confused:
 
Too many people with too much time on their hands to complain here! I for one am just really looking forward to it, anything thats takes Forza 2 as a base and improves on it, is A+ in my book, it won't always have the features everyone wants, and one person's definitive racing game may not be anothers, nevertheless, I know I'll have a lot of fun with this, and I know some of you here will, some won't play as much, and some might spend hours whinging about it, or just painting cars :)

At the end of the day, we'll all get different things from it, so quit whinging and keep hyping, GT5 vs FM3 this is not!
 
I wont post here any further ragarding it so i wont be a problem.
Im passionate about racing games but i dont have to suck in everything a developer trys to push.

If anything i took for granted too much of the hype on FM2 so sorry not this time. The proof of the pudding will be in the eating.

I guess things dont change much here as OcUK has too often a problem with members taking a console side, i dont care which is best, ill buy both and play the one i enjoy the most whatever it is. I dont know of many of you that will spend close to the money i will invest in this game so not one of you are in a position to question my support or desire for the title.

As for being negative, ive only been negative on things that dont by any means seem to be improved or will put FM3 behind its competition, fair discussion id say but no, you guys just talk about all the great stuff it will have believe this is the definative next gen racing game they announce it to be with more cars and tracks than any other and also the best selling.

Im more sceptical this time.....

I don't know who you keep referring to with this "taking the side of one console" thing, but I honestly haven't seen it much in this thread. Yeah, it happens often on these forums, but this thread has generally been people posting excited remarks and news/info about Forza 3. You're the one who has waded in starting the whole GT5 argument, and therefore bringing out the 360 vs PS3 rubbish again.

Create a GT5 vs. Forza 3 thread if you want to! I'm fortunate enough that I can get both, and I will, but if I wanted to compare the little info we have about Forza 3 with the little info we have about GT5, I'd start a thread. And if I wanted to talk about GT5, I'd find the GT5 thread.

Posting stuff about GT5 in the Forza 3 thread is bound to invoke a reaction, because most of the people interested in Forza 3 and posting in this thread will only have a 360, and will want to defend it in the usual way.

So, instead of kicking off the inevitable fanboy war, let's nip this one in the bud and start it elsewhere, because I'm sure nobody who is looking forward to Forza 3 wants this thread locked and deleted.
 
Years ago i triumphed FM2 on OcUK in the forums and i took a lot of stick on here for it, yep sucked up all the hype going and in general it dissapointed me when the game released particular its single player.

Now here we are with FM3, will i make the same mistake, hell no.
Yet now if somone mentions something not so good, or questions a decision on the direction the game is going look what happens...

I expressed it seemed a new direction was being taken for more mass appeal yet doesnt seem to improve the direction towards more sim features, that was the basis of weather/amount of cars topic. It wasnt meant as a direct GT comparison even though those feature may be in that game or indeed other games will have it.

No the point was why FM3 didnt and i asked to be shown just what FM3 had showcased to take the game to the next level regards the sim racing community, please do enlighten me?

Their i go being negative again because i have a concern....

Some of you arnt taking it as system wars discussion and i didnt say all of you were but these forums are very prone to it. Its inevetible people will compare like for like games, ive even referred to SHIFT ias well and guess what it could turn out to be the surprise racing package of the three.

Also james i wish youd get your facts right as i havnt been fully negative at all but it doesnt matter, as your all latching onto this VS thing with someone with an agenda which it wasnt about, its about the love of racing games, discussiing them and yes at times comparing, but not in a bad way.

No more from me on the matter, but i can tell you one thing, FM3 hasnt the most cars, it wont have the most tracks and out of those 100 tracks how many are track variations? Finally it wont sell more neither so Dan The Beard Greenawood can hype it all he wants...

In six months time you can prove me right or wrong....
 
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Years ago i triumphed FM2 on OcUK in the forums and i took a lot of stick on here for it, yep sucked up all the hype going and in general it dissapointed me when the game released particular its single player.

Now here we are with FM3, will i make the same mistake, hell no.
Yet now if somone mentions something not so good, or questions a decision on the direction the game is going look what happens...

I expressed it seemed a new direction was being taken for more mass appeal yet doesnt seem to improve the direction towards more sim features, that was the basis of weather/amount of cars topic. It wasnt meant as a direct GT comparison even though those feature may be in that game or indeed other games will have it.

No the point was why FM3 didnt and i asked to be shown just what FM3 had showcased to take the game to the next level regards the sim racing community, please do enlighten me?

Their i go being negative again because i have a concern....

Some of you arnt taking it as system wars discussion and i didnt say all of you were but these forums are very prone to it. Its inevetible people will compare like for like games, ive even referred to SHIFT ias well and guess what it could turn out to be the surprise racing package of the three.

Also james i wish youd get your facts right as i havnt been fully negative at all but it doesnt matter, as your all latching onto this VS thing with someone with an agenda which it wasnt about, its about the love of racing games, discussiing them and yes at times comparing, but not in a bad way.

No more from me on the matter, but i can tell you one thing, FM3 hasnt the most cars, it wont have the most tracks and out of those 100 tracks how many are track variations? Finally it wont sell more neither so Dan The Beard Greenawood can hype it all he wants...

In six months time you can prove me right or wrong....

It's alright being negative and sceptical! Just I'd prefer to avoid a fanboy war and the GT5 comparisons bring the fanboys out of the woodwork! :)
 
Years ago i triumphed FM2 on OcUK in the forums and i took a lot of stick on here for it, yep sucked up all the hype going and in general it dissapointed me when the game released particular its single player.

Now here we are with FM3, will i make the same mistake, hell no.
Yet now if somone mentions something not so good, or questions a decision on the direction the game is going look what happens...

I expressed it seemed a new direction was being taken for more mass appeal yet doesnt seem to improve the direction towards more sim features, that was the basis of weather/amount of cars topic. It wasnt meant as a direct GT comparison even though those feature may be in that game or indeed other games will have it.

No the point was why FM3 didnt and i asked to be shown just what FM3 had showcased to take the game to the next level regards the sim racing community, please do enlighten me?

Their i go being negative again because i have a concern....

Some of you arnt taking it as system wars discussion and i didnt say all of you were but these forums are very prone to it. Its inevetible people will compare like for like games, ive even referred to SHIFT ias well and guess what it could turn out to be the surprise racing package of the three.

Also james i wish youd get your facts right as i havnt been fully negative at all but it doesnt matter, as your all latching onto this VS thing with someone with an agenda which it wasnt about, its about the love of racing games, discussiing them and yes at times comparing, but not in a bad way.

No more from me on the matter, but i can tell you one thing, FM3 hasnt the most cars, it wont have the most tracks and out of those 100 tracks how many are track variations? Finally it wont sell more neither so Dan The Beard Greenawood can hype it all he wants...

In six months time you can prove me right or wrong....

Forza 3 has....

-More tracks
-More Cars
-Better Physics
-Video Editor
-Better Graphics
-Cleaner UI

.....than Forza 2. How has the game progressed towards being a better sim? Who knows. But it looking like its going to be a better game than its predecessor.

Just what is your problem? You're still not angry about the game because it wouldn't let you place you decal in the right place are you?
 
No more from me on the matter, but i can tell you one thing, FM3 hasnt the most cars, it wont have the most tracks and out of those 100 tracks how many are track variations? Finally it wont sell more neither so Dan The Beard Greenawood can hype it all he wants...

You have just lost all credability with that one sentence there.:rolleyes:
 
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