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Running it like big girls or running it like a business
Personally I am happy with the way they run the club. Admittedly I would love some big name signings but I am also happy to support the team through thick and thin. We are still competing for things but we are just coming up short. Spending huge amounts of money does not mean that we will be more successful.
Someone mentioned you are a glass half full type of person. Personally I think you are an empty glass.
I would love to know where you are getting your information from about Nasri wanting loads of money? All I have read is that he wants success. Either prove he has said it or please stop making up lies.
Yes every single player to sign for City say's its all about success, yet you and everyone else call them mercenaries, but when it suits you, your argument changes.
Running Arsenal like a business, really, letting Henry, Vieira, Flamini, Gilberto, Eduardo, Gallas, Pires, etc, etc, etc all for pathetic money, while even idiots like Redknapp and Benitez got great value on most deals.
We are throwing 60k a week down the drain on Diaby, despite being injured more than fit for his entire time, he gets a new deal every couple years and pay bumps, despite being horrifically awful when he does play. So 3 mil a year on Diaby, 2.5mil a year on Denilson, similar on Song, similar on Eboue, similar on Eduardo, bendtner, and it goes on, and on and on.
Spending 100k a week on a great player is less of a waste than spending 20k a week on Denilson, he never will be good enough for Arsenal, therefore every single penny spent is wasted, and the fact that we've had a bunch of these 2-4mil a season players either not playing or no where near good enough, for 6 years, with no change....... thats a well run business?
As I keep saying and guys like you ignore, its NOT about money, its NOT about business, its about a bad manager.
40k a week could have been going on another player, instead it goes on Denilson, get rid, bring in a new guy, if he sucks, get rid, bring in a new guy. You'd be TRYING to improve, not believing you have a guy who is good enough.
Glass half full, Tom is so full of his own crap he doesn't know whats going on, empty?
Hands up which Arsenal fan believes with the SQUAD WE HAVE, with players on the bench, with the right formation and a defensive coach who knows how to defend, that the current team is capable of winning the league.......... yes, just one, me.
Theres one problem at Arsenal, Wenger, nothing else, just the one. Most Arsenal fans on here think there are countless problems and hate the wrong half of the team.
Bendtner, lol, if Caroll had set up 2 goals, scored a goal , against Barca, been instrumental in another, everyone on here would be creaming themselves. RVP and everyone else gets injured, Wenger finally plays Bendtner and he gets, 6 goals 6 assists in the league, in 12 games, 5 goals in 5 champs league games, including against Barca......... but we're going to likely let him leave for well under half his value, because Wenger plays a system that doesn't suit the squad, nor his tactics and because the fans don't like the fact that Bendtner is, really confident(and not English).
Arsenal do not need to spend 50mil to be competitive, transfer fee's are incredibly small compared to wages. We've been consistantly in the top 3 wage spenders(till City) and yet people pretend its an achievement to be in the top 4. Its the bare minimum, we can replace every underperforming player, with equally priced players, and still see a massive improvement. Its not the need to spend, its not the need to run Arsenal worse with higher fee's, its Wengers absolute inability to see when players aren't good enough. We spend circa £110-120mil a year on wages, 20-30mil of that is literally completely wasted, its been wasted for YEARS, add it up, 6 years of a lot of utterly useless players, woeful, really woefully bad shirt/stadium sponsorship deal thats getting closer to 150-200mil LESS than the top teams over the length of the deal.
I still think we can put out an awesome team, but we never do, and frankly I believed it more last year with Gallas in the team, any injuries though and we wouldn't, because those guys mentioned, who apparently everyone on earth but Wenger thinks are utterly useless, aren't good enough, yet they receive the same wages of players who would be good enough, thats the problem.
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He's perfect for them though, adds the much needed balance from all the superstars in the team, very much like Makalele in the great Real Madrid side with Zidane & Figo
No surprise for me he's walked straight into the national side either
Definitely Busquets > Mascherano IMO
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I love Bendtner.
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so all these stories I've been reading that Nasri is joining City are using goal.com as their source?
Personally I'm going all out muppet and predicting we'll sign both Nasri and Sneijder
Whilst I wouldn't hold my breath on this I have had a few wet dreams on this same premise
you talking to me luv?
http://www.footylatest.com/man-utd-looking-to-raid-real-madrid-in-search-of-midfielder/23134
Khadira to Utd?......(if the Spanish press are to be believed)
(Ie Not a chance in **** lol)
Khadira to Utd?......(if the Spanish press are to be believed)
(Ie Not a chance in **** lol)
If you believed DM you'd think Arsenal were regularly fighting to stay in the Premiership rather than regularly qualifying for the Champs League and having decent cup runs.
It's astonishing how all these players who are the worst ever and play all the time and are completely useless still manage to regularly beat most of the teams they play against, especially teams like Aston Villa when they had Young the best player ever in the world ever.
It's astonishing how all these players who are the worst ever and play all the time and are completely useless still manage to regularly beat most of the teams they play against, especially teams like Aston Villa when they had Young the best player ever in the world ever.
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Quote me where I said Nasri was a mercenary? You still haven't answered my question about Nasri demanding more money. Where are these facts or you going to ignore the parts you can't answer
Don't just make up facts to reply to me. And if you are going to accuse me of things then give me quotes.
You talk about letting Henry, Pires and all those others go for rubbish prices, most all in their last year of contacts...
Yet if you had the chance you would have sold Fab to Barca last season for £26m lol Because you thought his price would only go down from that the following year.
Wenger - successful manager who has run his club on a budget who play regular CL Football with flair and a nice new stadium
DM - Uses the wonders of hindsight to criticise and promote his hate campaign
As supporters we have the benefit of not having a personal relationship with the players and disposing of them is as easy as playing football manager.
Your great plan is buy a player...no good....get rid....buy a player...no good...get rid...
So you start off with a say £14m player....turns out bad....you sell for £8m...
You buy another player for £14m....turns out bad....you sell for £8m....
Yeah great business plan there DM lol
as you well know with Fabregas - one excellent player does not necessarily make a good team. For all his excellence at his role - he cant control and guide the defence as well or tel the goalie when to come for the ball/or wait on his line - so against any decent side how ever many CF scores or sets up Arsenal are always fighting a more difficult cause because of the leaky defence
Its also fair to say that on some days Arsenal are elctrifying in the final 1/3 and other times you cant shoot for **** lol , and you tend to over-elaborate in teh final 1/3. You may always get 10/10 for artistic interpretation but if you concede too much or dont get the ball in the right net it really matters squat
(not that Young is even close to your humerous description either of course lol)
I personally still think it was absolutely criminal that Arsenal lost to Birmingham in the final - and Arsenal really didnt deserve that much on the day. The winners belief just doesnt exist at Arsenal as a club (otherwise you wouldnt fall away so drastically at the end of each and every season most of the time). Fab has the winning belief running thru him - but if he has to share that with 10 others (or 24 others to be fair) its just not going to work.
Even in the worst days of last season (possibly the horrendous result at Anfield comes to mind) Utd Im sure never forgot the bigger picture and knew they could still win the title - its drilled into them (and thats why after his words after leaving Utd it was obvious why SAF sold Foster, he wasnt a born winner)
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Why does everyone keep picking on DM, he does make some good points tbh, ok you have to put aside a couple of hours to find them but they're there!
So who does everyone think has done the best business of the window so far?
Unfortunately I would have to say Sunderland
Vaughan, O'Shea, Brown, Larsson and Gardener all good signings. If they can get a decent striker (not Wickham who is a prospect) they should do reasonably well.
Just hope Newcastle pull their fingers out now, we need 2 more midfielders a good CB and another striker. Doubt we'll get anyone of note though
Unfortunately I would have to say Sunderland
Vaughan, O'Shea, Brown, Larsson and Gardener all good signings. If they can get a decent striker (not Wickham who is a prospect) they should do reasonably well.Just hope Newcastle pull their fingers out now, we need 2 more midfielders a good CB and another striker. Doubt we'll get anyone of note though
im waiting for the big surprise transfer which will start the ball rolling, its been all talk for too long! i know we have a few weeks yet, but i love it when it all kicks off and then teams start paying silly money as they don't wanna be left behind
He does have the odd good point. You just have to wade through tonnes of **** and drivel to find it. I don't think too many people are going to do that.
He's really not, due to the reasons stated in my post. He'll be a regular starter this season for Chelsea I imagine. Villas-Boas players with a DM and two CM in front of him.
---- Creative Mid ------ Ramires
-----------------Mikel ---------
Wouldn't be surprised to see Lampard used as an impact player this season.
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Wenger said on Arsenal Player that he sold Clichy because he was in the last year of his contract, and to give Gibbs a chance which is a huge gamble imo.
He also said what I assumed the other day which is that he has a plan, and just because we haven't heard anything doesn't mean nothing is happening. Cesc hasn't been taken along on the Asia tour because of a muscle problem or something, so make of that what you will.
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/-we-are-working-long-nights-to-sign-players-
He also said what I assumed the other day which is that he has a plan, and just because we haven't heard anything doesn't mean nothing is happening. Cesc hasn't been taken along on the Asia tour because of a muscle problem or something, so make of that what you will.
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/-we-are-working-long-nights-to-sign-players-
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Has anything been confirmed by any of the clubs involved though? All I've heard is stuff from the papers with no quotes at all, saying Arsenal value Nasri at £20,000,000+ and stuff like that. If Man City are willing to come in and offer that for him that's different, but I don't think Nasri is for sale and we haven't set a price for him, if someone makes us an offer however that's different.
The Guardian reported something along the lines of United having 20 million rejected and Arsenal wanting closer to £30 million. They also reported he'd rejected a contract similar in wage / bonuses to Cesc.
I think it's going to be a really stupid bit of business if he's able to leave at a free at the end of the season rather then cashing in on him now.
I think it's going to be a really stupid bit of business if he's able to leave at a free at the end of the season rather then cashing in on him now.
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I'd definitely cash in on him if the stories are true. I read this morning that he'd rejected £110,000 a week, he's a good player, he could become great even, but he's not worth that at this stage, and he certainly isn't bigger than the likes of Fabregas or van Persie. Nasri is replaceable, whether Wenger chooses to do so though is another matter but I wouldn't leave him to walk away from nothing next season and I don't think even Wenger is stupid enough to do that. He surely must have learned from the likes of Flamini.
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