10GB vram enough for the 3080? Discuss..

[Chuk_Chuk]

I'm not sure what area you mean, but I agree the screenshot doesn't look great on its own. The video shows that there is a lot of scattered light coming from the left, from an area in the ceiling, which then explains the greater amount of light in the comparrison. The original never bounced that light leaving it looking so dark. It feels quite natural playing through that area.

That explaination doesn't consider that the brightness falls off with each bounce and distance travelled, as well as the colours of the objects it is bouncing off. (Bright colours more reflection. darker colours more absorption). There is also the initial intensity of the light.

I don't even think that level of light scatter and brightness in the surronding area would be possible without a mirror being underneath the opening.

Edit: Also the orginal would be using pre baked lights. Which would have been calculated using ray tracing :|

I suspect the true physically correct image sits inbetween the two.

 

[Wrinkly]

Sigh, round and round we go....

I'm of to enjoy a true next gen ray tracing title here, enjoy your kid cartoon games PS. bet you I could beat you in fortnite





Not to mention, youtube videos compress it to hell i.e.

Sadly I didn't get a like for like capture but you can see clear difference good quality captures make









It's funny isn't it though, that the only ones who seem to dislike ray tracing are amd fans (I wonder why..... ) and with no proper evidence at all to backup said claims other than "ray tracing off looks better to me" meanwhile how many in depth tech. pieces with side by side comparisons do we have praising ray tracing? Or are ALL of them bought by nvidia?

It'll be interesting if/when amd beat nvidia at ray tracing, watch as the tables get reversed, amd fans = "best thing ever!!!!!" nvidia fans = "ray tracing isn't that good"

Nice screenshots!

Gregster once told me I hated RT when Turing/BF5 launched. Of course I denied it and so he told me I just hate Nvidia. Now others claim I'm a Nvidia fanboy. I gave up backing the one horse a long time ago and now just pick the better hardware. Fingers crossed for RDNA3 since it would be designed primarily for console.

 

[LtMatt]

You should just let him live in his own head cannon.

Lol that is a funny quote.

 

[Nexus18]

It's funny how people are so oblivious to their loyalty

As for that scene of the womans face, my screenshots:



There is a candle/light to the right of the doctor

Is this not just the way your cognitive logistics work? Why would AMD fans Dislike Ray Tracing?

Pretty simple because they can't use the feature at acceptable frame rates hence have no option but to turn it off then throw in the brand loyalty/preference aspect and you get said posts.

Nice screenshots!

Gregster once told me I hated RT when Turing/BF5 launched. Of course I denied it and so he told me I just hate Nvidia. Now others claim I'm a Nvidia fanboy. I gave up backing the one horse a long time ago and now just pick the better hardware. Fingers crossed for RDNA3 since it would be designed primarily for console.

Yup back with turing, ray tracing was god awful, was literally just bf 5 wasn't it? And the performance + difference was laughable, not to mention dlss 1.0.... Nowadays, well we have the hardware, dlss 2.0+ and the games to enjoy it, well maybe not for amd yet....

 

[Nexus18]

Ye gads, the "enhanced" version is awful! It looks like her face is covered in jelly/grease. And the lighting is way worse, not better.. the original is definitely giving the impression of being lit by a naked flame, the "enhanced" version is like typical office overhead lighting.

Very of topic now.... but since you mentioned office overhead lighting, it just reminded me of these areas in metro, was very impressive in motion, particularly the first one when the lights go out and you need to throw Molotov's to keep the spider monsters at bay







Should really be using this thread for rtx talk though....

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/foru...enchmarks-software-etc-thread.18898329/page-6


So for the 4th time now I think?

What other games is a 3080 having issues with because of vram @1440/4k? So far we have:

- godfall - an outlier and even then, as per the youtube videos etc. posted before, a 3080 looks to be performing very well here

- hzd - debunked since the one person who did a comparison was using a 5700xt/vega iirc and on an older version of the game, which had issues rendering textures

- re village - as above, seems like there aren't any issues with performance and a 3080 actually performs better than a 6800xt (with ray tracing on)

Anything else?

 

[_Cereal_]

People saying that metro enhanced looks worse by comparing screenshots have clearly never played it to begin with, its one of the nicest upgrades ive seen in a big while.

 

[TNA]

Not me, I'm afraid. You're thinking of somebody else.

You are right. My apologies. Was thinking of humbug. Lol

 

[FoxEye]

You are right. My apologies. Was thinking of humbug. Lol

I'm rocking a Vega 56 and trying to get a PS5. On the PC side, I'm waiting for something truly next gen, not this 10GB rubbish /spits

 

[z10m]

People saying that metro enhanced looks worse by comparing screenshots have clearly never played it to begin with, its one of the nicest upgrades ive seen in a big while.

I agree the game looks stunning with ray tracing. The only downside is the low quality textures but maybe that’s a good thing because you know 3080 probably couldn’t cope with better textures and only 10GB of vram.

 

[Nexus18]

I agree the game looks stunning with ray tracing. The only downside is the low quality textures but maybe that’s a good thing because you know 3080 probably couldn’t cope with better textures and only 10GB of vram.

 

[z10m]

I'm rocking a Vega 56 and trying to get a PS5. On the PC side, I'm waiting for something truly next gen, not this 10GB rubbish /spits

You know what.? I have both and somehow games look and run miles better on that 10GB rubbish than they do on 16GB PS5.
I know I’m shocked as well.

 

[TNA]

Nice screenshots!

Gregster once told me I hated RT when Turing/BF5 launched. Of course I denied it and so he told me I just hate Nvidia. Now others claim I'm a Nvidia fanboy. I gave up backing the one horse a long time ago and now just pick the better hardware. Fingers crossed for RDNA3 since it would be designed primarily for console.

I am the same. I buy what’s suits me best at the time. I have been called a AMD fanboy and an Nvidia fanboy many times

 

[FoxEye]

You know what.? I have both and somehow games look and run miles better on that 10GB rubbish than they do on 16GB PS5.
I know I’m shocked as well.

Yeah, it's called purchase justification, or the placebo effect

 

[z10m]

Yeah, it's called purchase justification, or the placebo effect

 

[K1LaW8tt5]

So where did we land ? @Nexus18 tell us again how many hours of cyberpunk you played

 

[Richdog]

Perhaps people should create a thread if they want to discuss about the 3070 or/and 8gb vram as this thread is for the 3080 and 10gb vram....

Umm how about no... this turned into a general VRAM discussion thread a LONG time ago. Pretty much the exact same people making the same arguments as on the first couple of pages too.

 

[Wrinkly]

200 pages so far -

• 10GB 3080 appears to be doing very well at the moment.
• No one is able to reason why 10GB won't be enough for the next 1-2 years.
• In contrast AMD's 16GB cards are already failing due to not having enough grunt to handle raytracing.

 

[Richdog]

200 pages so far -

• 10GB 3080 appears to be doing very well at the moment.
• No one is able to reason why 10GB won't be enough for the next 1-2 years.
• In contrast AMD's 16GB cards are already failing due to not having enough grunt to handle raytracing.

People provided very balanced and logical (some would also say rather obvious) rationale, for why VRAM may be a potential problem in the next couple of years at highest resolution and detail settings, numerous times in many distant previous pages. They are just so far back that they have been lost in the current cyclical and wholly repetitive discussion and some people cannot be arsed dredging them up and repeating them.

 

[Wrinkly]

People provided very balanced and logical rationale for why VRAM may be a problem in the next couple of years at highest resolution and detail settings, numerous times in many distant previous pages... they are just so far back that it has been lost in the current discussion and people cannot be arsed repeating them.

Well I started reading this thread at page 1 and still haven't seen any technical reason. I have however seen people post without knowing what a GB is, while others weren't able to understand the numbers they were reading in Afterburner.

 

[LtMatt]

People provided very balanced and logicyl rationale for why VRAM may be a problem at highest resolution and detail settings numerous times in many distant previous pages... they are just so far back that it has been lost in the current discussion and people cannot be arsed repeating them.

Well said, the point has been proven now without doubt.

We have games now where the 3080 has the grunt to run them but due to the lack of video memory gets it’s trousers pulled down in minimum FPS in Godfall.

We also have a few 3080 owners who have shared their experiences with lack of video memory causing issues in other games that the 6800 XT does not see.

However these claims are often ignored or rubbished by the usual few in here. Excuses and goal post moving is rife. It’s almost like a cult, the denial is strong but now the point has been proven there’s no need to keep going over it. It’s all explained a few pages back and more.

No doubt someone will quote this post, denying the above despite what’s been posted so it can be regurgitated all over again.