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10GB vram enough for the 3080? Discuss..

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oguzsoso said:
yeah let's see how fast some developer will be encouraged by nvidia to break the "10 gb" vram wall and ride away at 4k rt
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Who cares since at this point I'd rather have my 3080 with 10gb for the £650 I paid over the 3080Tie or 3090 which cost double. The money saved will go towards RTX 4000 or RDNA3 which will easily beat out current stuff anyways.
 
Joxeon said:
Who cares since at this point I'd rather have my 3080 with 10gb for the £650 I paid over the 3080Tie or 3090 which cost double. The money saved will go towards RTX 4000 or RDNA3 which will easily beat out current stuff anyways.
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You have a point, but not everyone upgrades every generation. A high-end GPU should reliably last 2 generations and even 3, just like 980/980ti or 1080/1080ti (and matter of fact, if you don't care for RT, these GPUs are still kicking).
 
oguzsoso said:
You have a point, but not everyone upgrades every generation. A high-end GPU should reliably last 2 generations and even 3, just like 980/980ti or 1080/1080ti (and matter of fact, if you don't care for RT, these GPUs are still kicking).
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If you don't plan to upgrade for a while then just pony up for the 12 or 24gb cards, the 3080 at £650 is really a mid range card now since high end costs 1K + from now on.
 
3080 at £650 is a superb card. It does have less vram than AMD equivalent BUT it has better RT performance, better productivity performance, better video encoding performance, better mining performance and better upscaling performance.
And for those who didn’t mind mining on them the card has paid for itself by now and then some.
To me it is the best hardware purchase ever.
I’m super happy with it. ;)
 
Joxeon said:
If you don't plan to upgrade for a while then just pony up for the 12 or 24gb cards, the 3080 at £650 is really a mid range card now since high end costs 1K + from now on.
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I think you have it backward. The "range" in midrange is determined by *performance*, not price.

Right now the 3080's performance is far closer to the top of that range than the middle.
 
stooeh said:
Don't you have Godfall ? I'd test it myself but it looks a bit pap, maybe if it comes cheap on a sale I'll pick it up
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Sadly it can't be said for 100% certainty as no side by side videos with ray tracing turned on (at least not that I can see). Only one bar/graph chart by wccftech and even then it's not exactly a great deal of a difference going by that and certainly not a case of the "3080 having its trousers pulled down" and if it is, well then so does the 6800xt except no lube is used for it :D :p

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ICDP said:
Absolutely agreed with the caveat that this only applies at MSRP but MSRP is a fantasy now. Had I paid more than ~£700 for my 3080 FE I would be feeling like I was scammed. At the scalping prices 10GB is not remotely future proofed for 4K even 1 year down the line.

Note the following is not aimed at your post but in general.

There has been a steady trickle of evidence showing that 10GB can be a problem on the 3080 and we aren't just taking rare ubermodded scenarios but out of the box. Of course we still have people defending it as "they are crap games anyway", or "poorly coded", or "it will run out of GPU grunt before it matters". How do any of those subjective non evidence based answers somewhow invalidate the objective facts being presented? We also have the destraction of "but look how awesome RT in Metreo Exodus and CP2077 is" and I am scratching my head and how this is relevant.

It's like a one car family buying a family car and saying it is perfect but ignoring those family vacations where it couldn't hold 4x people and their luggage. "But but but it's perfect for my daily commute".

I swear the cognitive dissonance on display by some here is absolutely mind boggling. Why is it hard to understand that if your answer to the question "is it good enough", is "mostly yes" then the answer is actually NO.
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Really, you purchased a 3080 to run 2 4K displays in VR thinking that was a good idea when the 3090 existed? Well to quote someone else ;)

ICDP said:
I swear the cognitive dissonance on display by some here is absolutely mind boggling.
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Don't feel too foolish though as you were correct in choosing Nvidia - https://babeltechreviews.com/vr-war...rtx-3080-15-vr-games-performance-benchmarked/.

Conclusion
It is great to see AMD delivering a card that is performance competitive with the RX 3080. However, the RX 6800 XT only delivers higher unconstrained framerates in 4 of the 15 games we benchmarked. In addition, several of the FCAT VR frametime plots indicate the RTX 3080 delivers a smoother experience. From our preliminary PC gaming benchmarks using just 9 games, so far, the RX 6800 XT appears to be faster in pancake gaming than in VR relative to RTX 3080 performance.
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You may even have got away with it if the DLSS/VR uptake had already taken place, but at least you learned from your mistake and now own a 3090? It will be interesting to see how No Man's Sky performs in VR with DLSS.

Now as far as your subjective non evidence based gum flapping, try running some modern RT titles at 4K. Come back and let us know your thoughts after watching a video or two on CP2077 or The Medium with everything maxed running on the 10, 16 and 24GB GPUs.

At least you managed to impress @LtMatt. I'd wear a belt and braces from now on :D

So to get back on track.
  • We have a questionable entry with the AMD sponsored title Godfall. It now seems the 3080 does very well when the settings are turned up.
  • We have Skyrim with mods being better with more VRAM. Can't argue with that, but where do you draw the line? Is the 24GB 3090 enough?
  • DCS when using a Pimax 8KX (2 * 4K) VR headset. Can't argue with that. Best option would be the 3090.
Did I miss anything from the steady trickle list?
 
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ICDP said:
Oh here we go again with the "that game doesn't count" and "RT is awesome argument".
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If it's Wrinkly you're debating with prepare to go in more circles than the average merry go round does in a year. He has about 2 lines of drivel that he constantly trots out, when one gets smacked down he falls back onto the other, then that gets beaten down he hops back to the first and the cycle repeats over and over. Ignore function is your friend in this case.:)
 
Gerard said:
If it's Wrinkly you're debating with prepare to go in more circles than the average merry go round does in a year. He has about 2 lines of drivel that he constantly trots out, when one gets smacked down he falls back onto the other, then that gets beaten down he hops back to the first and the cycle repeats over and over. Ignore function is your friend in this case.:)
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Lol.

Is 10GB enough on an RTX 3080? Answer = RT is teh awsum

EDIT: I just rememberd that Wrinkly is the guy who paired a 3080 with a 3770K CPU and was basically getting 20-30% less performance. Yet here he is lecturing me on hardware purchases. Oh the irony.
 
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Gerard said:
If it's Wrinkly you're debating with prepare to go in more circles than the average merry go round does in a year. He has about 2 lines of drivel that he constantly trots out, when one gets smacked down he falls back onto the other, then that gets beaten down he hops back to the first and the cycle repeats over and over. Ignore function is your friend in this case.:)
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ICDP said:
Lol.
Is 10GB enough on an RTX 3080? Answer = RT is teh awsum
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Heh, he's not the only one in this thread tbf. :p

At the end of the day we can probably all agree, Is 10GB enough on an RTX 3080? For most things yes, for all things no.

Ah... who am i kidding? :D
 
ICDP said:
Oh here we go again with the "that game doesn't count" and "RT is awesome argument".
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Oh dear, maybe it's the warm weather...

Wrinkly said:
Now as far as your subjective non evidence based gum flapping, try running some modern RT titles at 4K. Come back and let us know your thoughts after watching a video or two on CP2077 or The Medium with everything maxed running on the 10, 16 and 24GB GPUs.
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Was in response to -

ICDP said:
Absolutely agreed with the caveat that this only applies at MSRP but MSRP is a fantasy now. Had I paid more than ~£700 for my 3080 FE I would be feeling like I was scammed. At the scalping prices 10GB is not remotely future proofed for 4K even 1 year down the line.
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ICDP said:
There has been a steady trickle of evidence showing that 10GB can be a problem on the 3080 and we aren't just taking rare ubermodded scenarios but out of the box. Of course we still have people defending it as "they are crap games anyway", or "poorly coded", or "it will run out of GPU grunt before it matters". How do any of those subjective non evidence based answers somewhow invalidate the objective facts being presented? We also have the destraction of "but look how awesome RT in Metreo Exodus and CP2077 is" and I am scratching my head and how this is relevant.
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As early on in this thread I commented that the 3080 will fall due to lack of GPU grunt, not VRAM. This looks to be even more likely according to the Lovelace/RDNA3 leaks.
 
All those people around launch telling people buying 3080s to wait for the 3080ti because it'll have 20GB of VRAM and only cost a little more.. :cry::cry:

All that wait for a measly 2GB at £1500. Good job, guys. Classic.
 
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