10GB vram enough for the 3080? Discuss..

[Wucked]

Best card I've ever used, which was what I thought of my previous 1080Ti FTW3. Still needs a lot more RT horsepower though, while DLSS is a must have for quality and silence.

I getcha, the performance uplift vs my 1080Ti is impressive! And as I said, I tried for one. But it's late in the product cycle now and prices are still over where they should be (imo)...

 

[Tired9]

LTMatt... This is simply absolutely monumentally bull fckng nuts how much faster the 3D Cache is in FC games.

Looks like we need to upgrade....!

I mean ok it's not a huge gain in all games but this is just.. woah!

 

[Nexus18]

AMD sponsored title getting good gains from AMD hardware, what a surprise..... Not surprised though with FC 6 due to its poor CPU optimisation and being all about single core perf.

Pretty tempted to upgrade from my 5600x but 2 things:

- my 5600x is a golden sample it seems, -30 undervolt across all cores and very silent + runs cool, 5800x and above runs pretty hot so I would also need a new cooler
- playing at 3440x1440 and 4k, doesn't seem worth the outlay atm

Would it really though? I mean you can get 3060 with more VRAM than the 2080Ti, I don't consider that a slap in the face, it's just that typically VRAM increases with later generations, having more VRAM isn't much use if you don't have the grunt to go with it.

Exactly.

People seem to ignore that or don't get it.

We only have 1 possible title so far where it has shown issues but if you look at the big picture i.e. the people with 3090s and 3080tis etc. who do meet the "requirements" posting that they are also having fps drop, to me, that indicates that something isn't quite right especially when not "every" site and user are reporting issues.

TBH, best thing to do would be for someone who gets these FPS drops to test the game with max settings, HD texture pack and RT at 720p, that way you are largely reducing vram bottlenecks/issues, see what happens then

Whatever we conclude in this thread, sadly it does seem for the foreseeable future DF will remain the only reviewer to check for things like texture stream quality and frequency of flush and restream. The rest of the industry seems happy enough to just check FPS.

Problem is the narrative.... DF pointed out the stutters and texture pop in/rendering on FC 6 happening on consoles too but a few ignored that bit or didn't believe it because it didn't fit the narrative It's only when they point out something wrong/bad about nvidia that they all of a sudden become reputable/good, much like what has recently happened with TPU and HU






As for deathloop, got recordings but it captured my desktop/main monitor instead of the game, will try again (suspect I'll need to make my 4k display the main one) but FPS matches up with computerbase.de in terms of lows and average although my average fps seemed to be higher on the whole, frame latency line was flat with 2 hitches but didn't look vram related, at least vram usage wasn't particularly high at the time unless assets were being purged/swapped, didn't see texture pop in either, including the same spot DF used for their example, will try recording again.



DLSS improves fps by a decent chunk and looks better. Deathloop badly needs FSR 2 already as it looks bloody awful with FSR 1. When exactly are games going to get upgraded to FSR 2 @LtMatt ? Wasn't it suppose to be very easy and quick to implement, especially if said games already have TAA or DLSS implemented?

Must say though deathloop looks stunning, textures look great (some even look better than FC 6 textures) and the design of the gameworld is what you would expect from bethesada.

 

[Wrinkly]

I mean ok it's not a huge gain in all games but this is just.. woah!

I held out until they announced it was only the 5800X that was getting the 3D cache, then opted for the 12900k.

Pretty tempted to upgrade from my 5600x but 2 things:

- my 5600x is a golden sample it seems, -30 undervolt across all cores and very silent + runs cool, 5800x and above runs pretty hot so I would also need a new cooler
- playing at 3440x1440 and 4k, doesn't seem worth the outlay atm

I've crippled my 12900k with a 125W PL2 limit and a decent undervolt though you wouldn't know it without a FPS counter. It still scores 25k running CBr23 while only hitting 60C air cooled with default fan profiles. Placed under my desk I'd describe the system as running silent so I'm sure the 5800X3D could also be tamed in a similar fashion.

 

[G J]

Would it really though? I mean you can get 3060 with more VRAM than the 2080Ti, I don't consider that a slap in the face, it's just that typically VRAM increases with later generations, having more VRAM isn't much use if you don't have the grunt to go with it.

Good point and I thought about this abit more and realised that my slap in the face comment was abit of poor judgement as theres a few cards on the market that have roughly the same performance but differing VRAM amounts.

1660 Super 6GB /1070 8GB / 3050 8GB
1080 8GB and 2060 6gb
2070s 8GB and 1080 Ti 11GB
3070 8GB and 2080 Ti 11GB

I dont remember seeing posts or reviews saying the cards with lower vram against the higher amount cards has caused any issues while the other was fine and if it is it's prob a small number of games while the older cards listed more than likely as you said will run out of juice way before the vram limit is an issue.

 

[Nexus18]

Anyone able to capture deathloop with their recording setup (preferably geforce) with 2 displays connected? Even with making my TV the main display, it still doesn't record the game/4k display, just captures my 3440x1440 on the desktop?

FSR UQ VS native VS DLSS quality. Much bigger and noticeable difference in motion especially with regards to shimmering.

Spoiler

Spoiler

 

[Tired9]

FC6 sure does have some dog ***** optimization.

I was getting some stutter when panning around with the mouse in game but not terribly bad.
Then when I was on the map for the first time I can hear my HDD scratching to the movement of the map on screen...

Indicating that the map is being read and discarded in real time which makes no fckn sense.

Is this "AMD" optimization so that the game eats as much resources as possible? Who even implements such a brain-dead thing.

Turn up your volume for this. You can see the FPS graph before hand though.

 

[Woodsta888]

FC6 has better optimization than that video. A FC6 CTD is more optimized than that dribble.

 

[Tired9]

FC6 has better optimization than that video. A FC6 CTD is more optimized than that dribble.

Your mom is well optimized for getting ploughed on my D but we don't hear me saying it often.

 

[Woodsta888]

She doesn't need her teeth-picked son.

You must be 4k8k's angry brother. Wrong advice but mad with it.

I saw the other day you work 'shifts'. 3070 price range.

 

[Tired9]

She doesn't need her teeth-picked son.

You must be 4k8k's angry brother. Wrong advice but mad with it.

I saw the other day you work 'shifts'. 3070 price range.

If you need to resort to ones GPU choice based on how much a person is willing to spend it is possibly more of a show of how limited your intellect is, especially if a person has goals and aims, these goals and aims require careful planning. Showing also not having capacity to understand situations that are different from your own and also coming back with such a stupid comeback.

My point about your mum makes sense and is not an insult if you had an ounce of intelligence, think more son.

Women have a certain thing between their legs as do men, so is she not more optimized for anyone's D?

Hurrr Derrrr

 

[Woodsta888]

not having capacity to understand situations that are different from your own and also coming back with such a stupid comeback.
your mum makes sense and is not an insult if you had an ounce of intelligence, think more son.

Women have a certain thing between their legs as do men, so is she not more optimized for anyone's D?

If you have to resort to 'ur mom' jokes, then I think the 'intelligence' failure is your end.

My Mum makes sense? Well she probably knows more about PC's than yourself, seeing as you said in another thread the 9900K was the issue.

My mom is not very optimized for anyone's D......Coz she be dead.

Hello Jimmy, fix it for me

Tired* = from workin' 'shifts. LOL

 

[Tired9]

If you have to resort to 'ur mom' jokes, then I think the 'intelligence' failure is your end.

My Mum makes sense? Well she probably knows more about PC's than yourself, seeing as you said in another thread the 9900K was the issue.

My mom is not very optimized for anyone's D......Coz she be dead.

Hello Jimmy, fix it for me

You came in with the BS mate, she is dead, good she don't have to deal with your stupid ass anymore.

Your mum jokes are a sign used for ones mental age according to those who wish to appear more mature, not necessarily intelligent.

And yes the 9900K is likely to be the culprit, go read again as to why my point of view was mentioned, understand it instead of twisting it, then comer back here, apologize and kiss my feet.

Cheers mate.

Comer here, I like my own typos, that's some stylish typing lol.

 

[Woodsta888]

You came in with the BS mate, she is dead, good she don't have to deal with your stupid ass anymore.

Your mum jokes are a sign used for ones mental age according to those who wish to appear more mature, not necessary intelligent.

And yes the 9900K is likely to be the culprit, go read again as to why my point of view was mentioned, understand it instead of twisting it, then comer back here, apologize and kiss my feet.

Cheers mate.

Aaaaaaand..................I rest my case.

I didn't make any Mum jokes

 

[Tired9]

Aaaaaaand..................I rest my case.

I didn't make any Mum jokes

What case was that?

I thought you said my video is not very optimized, you have done well at being easily misled into argument because your brain had no standing in the first place, not firm in mind, much like your D most likely and is why you came in here aiming at me and trying to pull me down in any way you can.

All I have done is use wit against you and remained cold to your obvious inferiority, I am a kind person in reality but the internet is a different story due to folk such as yourself and how easy it is to misinterpret and rip on others without knowing them.

 

[Woodsta888]

Half your video is off cam (in the dark) and what I'm seeing is the in game map? filmed on 'a phone'?

That FC6 perf test is it?

Didn't come in here aiming at you, but in all threads you are very aggressive and a complete know-it-all.

Your tired9ness seems to be an influential part of your life.

Have another pepsi before you start your 'shift'

 

[Tired9]

Half your video is off cam (in the dark) and what I'm seeing is the in game map? filmed on 'a phone'?

That FC6 perf test is it?

Didn't come in here aiming at you, but in all threads you are very aggressive and a complete know-it-all.

Your tired9ness seems to be an influential part of your life.

Have another pepsi before you start your 'shift

It's dark because you were supposed to be using your ears, in fairness headphones or earphones would work best, you can see a usage graph in the top left, what else is there to be misunderstanding?
You trying to make me look stupid is actually making you look stupid, there is nothing left out.

I am not aggressive, I am just direct with not much tolerance for BS. It defeats manipulators.

Think of me like this person: Kim Woodburn

Was my answer aggressive to that persons stuttering issue?

I am only aggressive to people who purposely misread information for their own aims, try to one up me or take me for an idiot.

I did say this is the internet, there is no one else going to defend me so I do it by myself especially when you have only started posting a couple of months back since being a member from 2018, everyone takes you for some idiot because people here are soaked up in their own ego's and so called "Know-it-all".

So off you go and think it through, what you receive is likely a reflection.

Tired9 is actually from a Playstation 1 game named Wild 9 just changed to tired, I have way too much energy actually, the opposite dilemma.

 

[Disco_P]

Anyone who is wondering why the page of posts have been deleted, you've missed a banger.

 

[Woodsta888]

Box 'o frogs 'in ere. And working shifts?

Cider tester?

 

[Tired9]

Box 'o frogs 'in ere. And working shifts?

Cider tester?

I go to work and come home, study, go swimming. Studying for something better.
My aims and goals don't allow me to be very social but my job is very social so it blends well and works for me.
Dedication. My boner don't die off the moment something hard comes my way, time, patience, determination and flexibility.
Can't say the same for the people who come in and fizzle out within a week, but we lost some great workers.

I thank my practical ground work background and the army for having such discipline, except my mind on the internet, not the most disciplined thing ever, but I treat people with the dignity and respect they deserve when they are being honest and respecting others too and not treating them like they are stupid, otherwise I step up and do it to them.