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Caporegime
Yeah true but that case is better than a lot of over £100 cases... its a smart choice but still, throw in the full side window one...
Hi there
This thread is for TR, but that is not launched yet, just SI pre-orders, no on shelf parts to be sold or offered yet, but soon!
Best value for gaming and light video work I'd always recommend 1600X/B350/3200Mhz RAM, that setup will plainly just work, be super-fast and very future proof.
Those who want to tweak should go 1600 or 1700 with an X370 and some very good 3200/3600MHz RAM.
P.S. Ryzen 3 is IN STOCK, grab a cheapo mainboard, 1200 or 1300X, some 3200 RAM and you got a lot of performance for a small outlay and come upgrade time you only need swap the CPU out.
This thread is for TR, but that is not launched yet, just SI pre-orders, no on shelf parts to be sold or offered yet, but soon!
Best value for gaming and light video work I'd always recommend 1600X/B350/3200Mhz RAM, that setup will plainly just work, be super-fast and very future proof.
Those who want to tweak should go 1600 or 1700 with an X370 and some very good 3200/3600MHz RAM.
P.S. Ryzen 3 is IN STOCK, grab a cheapo mainboard, 1200 or 1300X, some 3200 RAM and you got a lot of performance for a small outlay and come upgrade time you only need swap the CPU out.
Thanks for the update Gibbo, not long now
Caporegime
Caporegime
Getting one ?
Bout time you came out from the stone age
Hows your nVidia Linux drivers?
Hows your nVidia Linux drivers?
Damn swear filter........
Not for long.
(preys amd pulls another one off on GPU front)
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I wish you had said "no time to explain, grab a cactus" 
For tweaking (abd maybe Zen2 use) which ram and mobo you recommend?
Soldato
The fastest you can afford. Zen2 might be able to support the highest ddr4 speeds. Then again it might not but I'd rather not be caught out.
AMD's roadmap says Pinnacle Ridge, due in 2018, is still "8 Zen cores". That's very unlikely to be the 7 nm die revision.
That's an older roadmap though, but it does mention Pinnacle Ridge is 'Zen2'.
All the latest slides show 'Zen2' is 7nm. And also it's all-but-certain Zen2 is moving to 6 cores per CCX.
Soldato
Well we know we are getting refresh Zen+ which is a revision of current and 14nm+ to hopefully improve things a little further.
Zen 2 is 7nm.
Zen3 is what they are touting as 7nm+
So yeah with Naples being 32 core they are indeed suggesting Starship is 48 core in 2018. I haven't seen anything direct to the fact other ranges are going 6 cores per CCX but it makes sense and that would be excellent news.
Meaning the flagship desktop would be 12 core
Threadripper flagship would be a possible 24 core then
And as said Eypc (Starship) to be 48 core
I would certainly be looking at Threadripper if they are targeting 5Ghz 24 core at that point on 7nm.
Zen 2 is 7nm.
Zen3 is what they are touting as 7nm+
So yeah with Naples being 32 core they are indeed suggesting Starship is 48 core in 2018. I haven't seen anything direct to the fact other ranges are going 6 cores per CCX but it makes sense and that would be excellent news.
Meaning the flagship desktop would be 12 core
Threadripper flagship would be a possible 24 core then
And as said Eypc (Starship) to be 48 core
I would certainly be looking at Threadripper if they are targeting 5Ghz 24 core at that point on 7nm.
Soldato
Only if they can keep the power and heat low as well. There is little point in going for such a high frequency if the roof of the datacentre is melting and the AC costs a fortune on top of the processing power drain.
Soldato
Only if they can keep the power and heat low as well. There is little point in going for such a high frequency if the roof of the datacentre is melting and the AC costs a fortune on top of the processing power drain.
The whole point of moving to 7nm though was to keep the power down thus the heat. It should allow them to aim for 5Ghz with the same power consumption as we have with the current CPU range. That is certainly what has been indicated at this time.
Otherwise why move to 7nm from 14nm if there is no gain?
Intel are more power hungry than what Zen is so doubt it. Zen is incredibly power efficient when you look at the IPC.Only if they can keep the power and heat low as well. There is little point in going for such a high frequency if the roof of the datacentre is melting and the AC costs a fortune on top of the processing power drain.