29 million Bulgarians and Romanians will gain the right to live and work unrestricted in our country
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Even ignoring most of your ridiculous statements here, you realise that things like the telephone were actually invented by immigrants? Albeit to the US rather than the UK.
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Alexander Graham Bell finalized the telephone fella that is how it is. He was born March 3, 1847 Edinburgh, Scotland. And if what i said is so "ridiculous" then debate it and prove otherwise. Find something that compares with the steam engine, light bulb, the telephone, railways, jet engine, ophthalmoscope, CT scanner.
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What's with your hypocrisy and double standards? Still rife as ever apparently.
In that thread about Muslims you were recommending that immigrants should send their wages back to their homeland.
Don't waste your time with this guy Castiel or anyone thinking of doing so.
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I'm not sure some of these posters like the idea of facts being presented, it tends to upset their argument/world view formed mostly from blind prejudice.
I'm not entirely sure with your first statement if you are agreeing or disagreeing. If you want other examples - Nikola Tesla is a pretty good one. Immigrant to the US from Serbia/Croatia I think. Would you like a list of his inventions? Perhaps attitudes like yours are why he chose to go there instead of the UK.
With regards to the ridiculousness point - why in the world would you restrict benefits to inventions? There is something to be said about economic prosperity, which Castiel's examples demonstrated. Not entirely sure what your issue is with the fact they are Jewish. Does that somehow make their contribution worth less? Benefits doesn't just mean inventions.
Soldato
lmao, wooo open the gates!
What's with your hypocrisy and double standards? Still rife as ever apparently.
In that thread about Muslims you were recommending that immigrants should send their wages back to their homeland.
Don't waste your time with this guy Castiel or anyone thinking of doing so.
Grow up. Not only are you unfit to discuss issues you also show a childlike attitude of resentment. This is a whole different thread yet again you are going to carry your butthurt here as well? Well if by ignoring you mean refuse to debate issues and resort to dismissing posts after the first paragraph or resort to insults then be my guest.
It just shows bad you are are debating.
I'm not debating anything.
I'm pointing out that in the other thread you said you want immigrants to expel money from the British economy and in this thread you are saying that the guy who made Tesco or whatever is bad for doing it, why? because he's a Jew?
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Apparently Rofflay is like Ghandi on the political spectrum, his words not mine 
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Maybe - though would those people not be here already if they wanted to be... its not like criminal gangs, beggers, escorts need worry about employment laws... they're already able to come here if they want they're just not able to be employed legally - why should laws covering legal employment be a big factor for these people?
Perhpas there are some part time criminal elements who also want a regular legal job.... I don't think you'd see a huge increase though - most of the people coming here as a result of being able to legally seek work will be people legally seeking work. People wanting to do mostly illegal things are likely here already.
Tesco are a company not an individual and it is completely different. Yes they take the money out but they never actually go home and never come back. They stay here like leeches sucking up every small grocery store and petrol pump. Now then u know fine well that is completely different from as i said wanting someone after 25 years of employment in the UK to go back to his country of origin and build a decent home for his children so they can get an education and work there. Instead of this happening generation after generation just wants in to Britain.
Apparently Rofflay is like Ghandi on the political spectrum, his words not mine
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That would be funny except the fact that you are a Muslim attempting to highlight someone else as a Jew hater. Pot kettle black springs to mind here. The problem is i just used the names of the three worst people on his list. They could have been Hindu's for all i knew. I just picked out the worst three on the list and they happened to be Jewish. And i love how you hide behind your persona and never reveal your history. I would love to know are you a native convert or are you or middle eastern origin? And could you perhaps tell us your views on say unlimited immigration to area's around Mecca and other Muslim nations?
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Yes I know Tesco are a company.
Your post tarnished the individuals not the company, see emboldened part:
To make people aware of your hypocrisy, double standards, and rapidly swaying views from thread to thread. Sorry if it hurts, but only you're responsible for what you post, you cant blame me for noticing it.
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Rhetoric and nonsense. Marks and Spenser are mainstays of the British High Street, they are not to blame for the economy.
Tesco pay significant amounts of tax in fact, it is not Amazon. It also pays above minimum wage and is one if the UK's largest employers.
You did not see I mentioned Frenchman Marc Isambard Brunel and his son Isambard Kingdom Brunel then, are you saying that those two engineers did not transform Britain?
Interestingly Alexander Graham Bell's mother was an American Immigrant. The light bulb was also independently invented by an American, the Jet Engine by a German, the Ophthalmoscope by another German, the CT scanner by an American.
Speaking of Babbage, his friend John Herschel was the son of a German immigrant, he invented the Cyanotype, his father William Herschel was an eminent astronomer who contributed to the perfection of telescopes and the discovery of various astronomical theories etc, including Infra-Red. He was also an accomplished composer. Speaking of composers, Handel's Messiah, a mainstay of British culture was composed by the eponymous George Handel, a German immigrant. One of Britain's highest ranked writers, Kazuo Ishiguro is a Japanese immigrant, the designer of the Olympic Tower is an Indian immigrant, Anish Kapoor. One of the most accomplished British Architects, Zaha Hadid, who aside from being a woman, is also an Iraqi immigrant.
There are examples everywhere if you look. Your opinion is based on a lack of knowledge and is therefore flawed.
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They built a brand new M&S in the Westfield 10 minutes walk from me. Just because they closed the unprofitable branch down your town centre, doesn't mean M&S are dead.
Just shows what you base your narrow minded views on. How about you base them on facts and figures instead of simply "OMG M&S closed my local branch, that must mean they're DEAD!"
Read this: http://corporate.marksandspencer.co...sentations/2012/full_year_results_2011-12.pdf
I never said they would take our jobs...
When you say American you mean a British person moving abroad to another country founded by Brits. Then you claim that it was actually invented by an American. Personally i think they were British they were born in Britain and were only first generation immigrants to America. America basically was British back then. If this were the case how come you say that an Indian was the designer of the olympic tower? Surely by your own logic he is British not Indian? You see what i just did there?
So which German invented the Jet engine? Frank Whittle had the first engine patented in 1930. In 1935 Hans von Ohain was still not finnished? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Whittle
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Well, what you just did there was further illustrate your lack of knowledge...Thomas Edison for example was an American, his father was Canadian and his ancestry was in fact Dutch. He was not a Briton who moved to the United States, neither were his Parents.
America was not basically British in the 19th and 20th Centuries...it gained its independence in 1776 and many settlers in the United States are not British, but from a vast array of other countries.
Sir Anish Kapoor is an Indian born British national...therefore he is an Indian immigrant and is relevant to the point being made about the positive side of immigration into the UK.
Hans von Ohain invented the first operational Jet Engine two years prior to Frank Whittle.
Tesco avoid tax as do any other British company, however they still pay significant taxes to the exchequer, so your position that Tesco pay little tax is flawed.
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Whipped up into a frenzy by the Daily Mail?
De-humanise an 'out-group' and blame them for the problems of the 'in-group'. Problems such as 'they took our jerbs'.
Nothing new, but I don't want to invoke Godwin's law here
Idealistically, the whole world belongs to all of us. Practically, you can't have one country or region housing too many, for all sorts of reasons. But we could probably take a few million more before society collapses under the strain
Well Wiki states that Whittle was finnished with his patent first but i never knew he never flew first. This is splitting hair's here lol. But there is also an old story and comedy about Swan v Edison and who really invented the lightbulb. For me i think Swan is the true inventor and Edison is nothing more than a common patent thief who went on to oust Swan from his own invention.
http://www.coolquiz.com/trivia/explain/docs/edison.asp
Decide for yourself i guess but one thing you can say is that Britain and Germany have some serious modern inventions under thier belts.
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