8700K OcUK Stock and Binned Processors

[Smffy]

I think what you should do is direct your frustrations at intel for launching in a hurry with such a small volume of stock available... honestly if it was my business I would have done the same, either way hundreds still disappointed so I feel like it’s a good choice by @Gibbo etc... I mean also if you want to waste time looking at finding a law it’s just laughable, you’re lucky OCUK we’re not selling the normal chip for £500 like some other big retailers.

I’m on the preorder, I’ll do my own delid but the price premium is for those who can’t afford the risk, the warranty is a big factor let alone 8Packs biceps having picked it up

 

[Mark Vale]

Come on, high wage, low wage what relevance has that got to do with what one finds appealing in the hobby? Everyone wants the best as an enthusiast, some can buy it no problems and others may have to work hard and save to buy...if you're on average wages then this doesn't and shouldnt make you a second rate citizen only eligible for the worst in the hobby. That's why if you've saved the cash for the 8700k rrp, you should be able to get one at rrp!

You need to get off the high horse and have some compassion and consideration instead of flexing about like gods given you the bank balance and talking to others like peasants deserve to eat from the gutter lol. Like really? who are you to tell me what I should and shouldn't be buying in my hobby based on my income? If i have the rrp price, i have the rrp price and your money makes you no more deserved than I do of an 8700k, that's why I've said what I have above, it's unfairly pricing people out of what should be RRP!

 

[gavinh87]

Come on, high wage, low wage what relevance has that got to do with what one finds appealing in the hobby? Everyone wants the best as an enthusiast, some can buy it no problems and others may have to work hard and save to buy...if you're on average wages then this doesn't and shouldnt make you a second rate citizen only eligible for the worst in the hobby. That's why if you've saved the cash for the 8700k rrp, you should be able to get one at rrp!

You need to get off the high horse and have some compassion and consideration instead of flexing about like gods given you the bank balance and talking to others like peasants deserve to eat from the gutter lol. Like really? who are you to tell me what I should and shouldn't be buying in my hobby based on my income? If i have the rrp price, i have the rrp price and your money makes you no more deserved than I do of an 8700k, that's why I've said what I have above, it's unfairly pricing people out of what should be RRP!

Ok, you have the cash right now. Can you buy one from ocuk or anywhere else?
Binning has nothing to do with it, there is a shortage. Would it matter if ocuk had 50 or 2? There would still be a ton of people waiting for coffeelake regardless.

 

[TJM]

Even if every unit had been sold as a retail unit, virtually none of us were going to receive an 8700K this week. I got my order in at 1:54pm and I would be pretty surprised if that was among the first 30 so I've lost nothing.

Intel has caused this problem for customers by launching a product that isn't available for sale. How many units were there in total in the UK - 30 here and a handful on some other websites but with some major competitors have no stock at all?

 

[BriT]

How come there are quite a few lower models, i5 8400, i3's etc. Even 8700 non k was in stock for awhile. Intel decide just not to make 8700k's? lol

 

[gavinh87]

Even if every unit had been sold as a retail unit, virtually none of us were going to receive an 8700K this week. I got my order in at 1:54pm and I would be pretty surprised if that was among the first 30 so I've lost nothing.

Intel has caused this problem for customers by launching a product that isn't available for sale. How many units were there in total in the UK - 30 here and a handful on some other websites but with some major competitors have no stock at all?

Exactly, I got mine from a local shop that had 1. Literally 1 was all he had, I was just lucky to get that.
If people are prepared to pay £800 for a CPU then a shop will sell said CPU for £800. Blame intel first.

@BriT probably yields.

 

[Born_2_Kill_83]

Sometimes, I turn the TV off, forget about the movie I downloaded, I just read these forum's for the lolz, it's like an episode of ollyoakz.

 

[Deleted member 651465]

I have 2, may chuck them on the MM for £600

 

[Mark Vale]

I understand theres a shortage, i understand intel have launched without sufficient stock, i get that i may not have got one had i tried and so wouldnt many even if ocuk did stock the 30 as retail. What gets me i the fact I've not had the chance is what makes a big difference, I had that chance removed by greedy practices, its not the premium for binned cpus that's an issue as each person has different incomes and needs and if you want to pay 800 that's fine, that's your call... it's how these particular binned cpus got there and at what sacrifice...the fact is they were retail that were opened that should have gone to customers at rrp (as intended by Intel's distribution). Being only 30 or low stock is irrelevent, having 1, 3 or 5 RETAIL and doing the same would still make this practice morally wrong, whether its me or joe blogs who got one is irrelevant, 30 people are now into what could be months of waiting without where as 30 people would have had one and should've had one at rrp, this chance was taken from me with greed as it was for so many. If theyd sold all at rrp and i missed out, so be it, ocuk would have done the right thing and sold retail as rrp and at least filled 30 demands and done the moral thing (and still made their usual profit).
I understand it's a business but it still needs ethics to maintain customer happiness. Ocuk are brilliant in so many ways and I've never had any complaints but this to me is just wrong.

 

[gavinh87]

I understand theres a shortage, i understand intel have launched without sufficient stock, i get that i may not have got one had i tried and so wouldnt many even if ocuk did stock the 30 as retail. What gets me i the fact I've not had the chance is what makes a big difference, I had that chance removed by greedy practices, its not the premium for binned cpus that's an issue as each person has different incomes and needs and if you want to pay 800 that's fine, that's your call... it's how these particular binned cpus got there and at what sacrifice...the fact is they were retail that were opened that should have gone to customers at rrp (as intended by Intel's distribution). Being only 30 or low stock is irrelevent, having 1, 3 or 5 RETAIL and doing the same would still make this practice morally wrong, whether its me or joe blogs who got one is irrelevant, 30 people are now into what could be months of waiting without where as 30 people would have had one and should've had one at rrp, this chance was taken from me with greed as it was for so many. If theyd sold all at rrp and i missed out, so be it, ocuk would have done the right thing and sold retail as rrp and at least filled 30 demands and done the moral thing (and still made their usual profit).
I understand it's a business but it still needs ethics to maintain customer happiness. Ocuk are brilliant in so many ways and I've never had any complaints but this to me is just wrong.

Then shop somewhere else. TBH ocuk have done more for customers than any other retailer.
Anyone been here long enough to remember the 970 memory fiasco would have seen this.

I get your ****** off, but complaining wont change anything. Its already happened and the chances of you getting one were slim even if they were sold at retail.

 

[Linkinworm]

Well this is annoying to find out, I bought basically a complete 8700k set of parts since my PC broke on my birthday just gone (the 3rd october) and thought i'd have a new pc by saturday, maybe next week at the latest as it was released on the 5th. but now god knows when i'll get it. worse is I put it on finance because i'm short on cash with xmas coming up so i'm going to be paying off something i may not even have because ocuk wants to make some extra quick cash? On top of being screwed over by gameseek on forza 7 its been a real rubbish week for me this just tops it off...

 

[Mark Vale]

Ocuk have always been great as ive said, theyve always been who ive gone to for any component and Ive bought a lot. They've always sent next day and fixed any issues quickly, absolutely fantastic and that's also why it's shocked me that they'd do this to the customers. I've pre ordered mine at 2pm on the 5th on ocuk, I just think this retail opening is a little bit dirty. What also concerns me now is the "we will always open retail whilst there is a shortage" and in as many words also suggested they will prioritise profit and dedicate components tonwhere makes them more profit first. (8 pacs comments)...what does this mean exactly? Does this mean in a weeks time say they get a further 50 or orders in dribs and drabs, will they send out to pre order customers or will they again say "up yours, you can wait, I can bin these and sell these to someone else who has a better income for more cash?"

 

[Hagar]

What you should be annoyed about as an overclocker is that an 8400 is as capable as an 8700k or at least an 8600k but has been artificially binned as a locked processor.

 

[Simon Belmont]

If you wait to blame anyone it's Intel for short supply.

 

[geordiejc]

In this situation are OCUK have behaved like eBay sellers with new hardware which no-one else has except they are offering you a delid and guaranteed minimum performance & warranty. That doesn't make it right but when it comes to business it's clear what their stance is. They won't change their ways after reading this so i'm out of this thread to invest my time and energy into something more productive. Cheers!

edit: Re: Intel to blame for lack of stock - that's a cop out, OCUK are responsible for their own actions no-one elses.

 

[Mark Vale]

I love how someones piped up and said that im lucky ocuk havent charged £500+ for the 'NORMAL CHIPS ' like some retailers have... lmao, that really is irony at its best....they were 'normal chips' before they were opened and tampered with and it wasnt just £500 it was up to £800! (Only 300 out )

I get that it's in short supply, i realise it's Intel's fault but that still doesnt make any of the above fair or right. Anyway I have written a huuuge essay covering everything i feel and I've said my bit. I'll stop ranting now.

As above I just hope that going by certain comments, i get my pre order when there is retail stock back in and it doesnt once again get opened and binned at a silly premium.

I will leave it at this...If I see a whole new batch of £500-£800 binned cpus before I have my pre order in hand, I'll be broadcasting what I can on this matter to every reputable pc enthusiast media following possible, I'll cancel my order, go elsewhere and never use ocuk again whilst also advising many others do the same.

I buy a lot from ocuk and build many pcs per year, I've always loved ocuk and had nothing but praise for them (still have from a customer service angle) i can forgive this one episode but if they bin all retail again whilst I have an outstanding pre order for one, I'll be taking any further business elsewhere.

 

[davisdavid]

I understand theres a shortage, i understand intel have launched without sufficient stock, i get that i may not have got one had i tried and so wouldnt many even if ocuk did stock the 30 as retail. What gets me i the fact I've not had the chance is what makes a big difference, I had that chance removed by greedy practices, its not the premium for binned cpus that's an issue as each person has different incomes and needs and if you want to pay 800 that's fine, that's your call... it's how these particular binned cpus got there and at what sacrifice...the fact is they were retail that were opened that should have gone to customers at rrp (as intended by Intel's distribution). Being only 30 or low stock is irrelevent, having 1, 3 or 5 RETAIL and doing the same would still make this practice morally wrong, whether its me or joe blogs who got one is irrelevant, 30 people are now into what could be months of waiting without where as 30 people would have had one and should've had one at rrp, this chance was taken from me with greed as it was for so many. If theyd sold all at rrp and i missed out, so be it, ocuk would have done the right thing and sold retail as rrp and at least filled 30 demands and done the moral thing (and still made their usual profit).
I understand it's a business but it still needs ethics to maintain customer happiness. Ocuk are brilliant in so many ways and I've never had any complaints but this to me is just wrong.

So you're complaining you couldn't and didn't get one but didn't try? There were several sites selling them. The main competitor sold a couple but they appear to have kept most of there's for pre built. No different to selling binned.

Ocuk have always been great as ive said, theyve always been who ive gone to for any component and Ive bought a lot. They've always sent next day and fixed any issues quickly, absolutely fantastic and that's also why it's shocked me that they'd do this to the customers. I've pre ordered mine at 2pm on the 5th on ocuk, I just think this retail opening is a little bit dirty. What also concerns me now is the "we will always open retail whilst there is a shortage" and in as many words also suggested they will prioritise profit and dedicate components tonwhere makes them more profit first. (8 pacs comments)...what does this mean exactly? Does this mean in a weeks time say they get a further 50 or orders in dribs and drabs, will they send out to pre order customers or will they again say "up yours, you can wait, I can bin these and sell these to someone else who has a better income for more cash?"

Yes this was mentioned, even I mentioned it in one of my previous comments. The likelihood is that if there's only another 30 in the next batch and 30 people have pre binned on order and 3000 have stock retail on order then it's fairly safe to assume where those 30 are going. Likewise if I pre ordered a 5.2ghz chip this evening I suspect I'd probably receive it before the non binned ones ship. OcUK is a business, profits drive business. People paying a premium offer greater profits which drives the business. I get you're annoyed as are many others but it's not going to change the price of fish. Pre-binning is.

Well this is annoying to find out, I bought basically a complete 8700k set of parts since my PC broke on my birthday just gone (the 3rd october) and thought i'd have a new pc by saturday, maybe next week at the latest as it was released on the 5th. but now god knows when i'll get it. worse is I put it on finance because i'm short on cash with xmas coming up so i'm going to be paying off something i may not even have because ocuk wants to make some extra quick cash? On top of being screwed over by gameseek on forza 7 its been a real rubbish week for me this just tops it off...

Did you just make two accounts?

 

[Linkinworm]

So you're complaining you couldn't and didn't get one but didn't try? There were several sites selling them. The main competitor sold a couple but they appear to have kept most of there's for pre built. No different to selling binned.



Yes this was mentioned, even I mentioned it in one of my previous comments. The likelihood is that if there's only another 30 in the next batch and 30 people have pre binned on order and 3000 have stock retail on order then it's fairly safe to assume where those 30 are going. Likewise if I pre ordered a 5.2ghz chip this evening I suspect I'd probably receive it before the non binned ones ship. OcUK is a business, profits drive business. People paying a premium offer greater profits which drives the business. I get you're annoyed as are many others but it's not going to change the price of fish. Pre-binning is.



Did you just make two accounts?

nope just this account... I tried loggin in with my email i use on the OCUK selling site but it didnt work so just logged in with my facebook account

 

[COYS]

Well this is annoying to find out, I bought basically a complete 8700k set of parts since my PC broke on my birthday just gone (the 3rd october) and thought i'd have a new pc by saturday, maybe next week at the latest as it was released on the 5th. but now god knows when i'll get it. worse is I put it on finance because i'm short on cash with xmas coming up so i'm going to be paying off something i may not even have because ocuk wants to make some extra quick cash? On top of being screwed over by gameseek on forza 7 its been a real rubbish week for me this just tops it off...

I don't understand. Sales of the Z370 motherboards went live at the same time at the chips didn't they? So why did you go ahead and buy the motherboard without the CPU? You can't now complain that you have to pay the finance on a system you can't use it when you shelled out money on everything but the CPU so couldn't use it anyway. Why didn't you just wait?

I'm not defending OCUK either, I think it stinks and I was looking to pull the trigger on a new system myself. However, in hindsight having now looked at the reviews, something there just wasn't time for in the mad scramble to find an 8700K in stock anywhere, I'm actually glad I didn't get one and will wait until the next offerings.

 

[davisdavid]

nope just this account... I tried loggin in with my email i use on the OCUK selling site but it didnt work so just logged in with my facebook account

No worries was just odd there was two new accounts about the same thing