So anybody that doesn't know if they want to live or die should be killed? This is excellent.
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So anybody that doesn't know if they want to live or die should be killed? This is excellent.
regardless on peoples opinions laws says it is murder.. You can't plead ignorance.. I can't say I didn't know I this was a 30mph zone
Personally I have no problem with early abortion. and I would say there is a point where it becomes murder. I am guessing that is why the point of legal abortion is where it is, a conservative estimate of where the child is considered sentient
even though there is no official sentient point in my head you have to draw a line in the sand
Personally I have no problem with early abortion. and I would say there is a point where it becomes murder. I am guessing that is why the point of legal abortion is where it is, a conservative estimate of where the child is considered sentient
even though there is no official sentient point in my head you have to draw a line in the sand
Because of a law not an opinion. You know the law and if you break it expect jail time..simples really.
My opinion is that if it can be popped out and survive then it's too old to be aborted. I'm not sure how my viewpoint tallies with the current law though. As technology gets better and better the abortion limit will have to come down and down.
Really.
Abortions have there place in certain severe situations like a rape victim falling pregnant after a sexual assault, or a child with a guaranteed birth defect like locked in syndrome or down syndrome for example.
I'm of the opinion its a bit before that.. But fully admit I couldn'tpin it down very well
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An awfully close-minded, impractical and ill-thought out point of view based on nothing but vague moral outrage.
This woman terminated a pregnancy well after the safe margin of error the law allows and the child probably did suffer. She should be punished to the extent of the law or, if deemed neccesary, given psychiatric help.
Really? For what reason do you single out sufferers of these two conditions as being appropriate for abortion?
That is completely off the mark.
Abortion is not about being financially able to care for a child. Even if the gov had unlimited funds they could not force women to bear children to birth.
Having a child involves deciding to bear it for 9 months, it's not just what you do with it after birth.
Every abortion could have been the next Einstein, or the next Hitler. I would venture a guess that since, statistically, criminals are more than geniuses, the likelihood of the abortion becoming a criminal instead of an Einstein is higher. Maybe we should encourage abortions then!!! What a great logic.
The whole argument in this case rests on whether you consider a 39 week fetus to be a child or not. In my opinion, as long as the fetus can be delivered through physical birth, or induced, and survive, then it's murder. If you don't want it and can have it delivered and survive, then do so and put it for adoption, you don't have to kill it. If it isn't though then you should be entitled and allowed to abort it (assuming it's safe to do so medically etc. etc.).
I find it very hard to argue that a fetus that would have been born in a week's time naturally is not a 'child' yet. In that sense, what if you kill it during labour, before it comes out, is it still a fetus? There needs to be a cut-off point based on some guideline and whatever that is, this woman has gone way over it.
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If she did it to cover up the affair then she deserved to be punished.
Calling it murder is retarded regardless of motive in my opinion.
Calling it murder is retarded regardless of motive in my opinion.
No, she broke the law. If you disagree with the law there are ways to go about it and get it changed. When you live in society you have to abide by the society's rules otherwise society would collapse as people started to do whatever the hell they felt like and we would have an anarchy. If society agrees with you and your opinions then laws can be changed, just as homosexuality was made legal because society's opinion was that it is no longer something that should be punished.
Unfortunately if your opinion is not agreed upon by the society then you either have to find another society or put up with the laws in place. Or as in this woman's case you can break the rules, but if you're caught you have to accept the punishment.
*cough*
My earlier post was not about women not being able to financially bring up a kid, just being able to at all. A lot of women get abortions because they simply don't want a kid.
Legal abortion is up to 24 weeks, baby is considered medically viable at 25 weeks.
Then I hereby deem the law to be correct.
It is certainly inaccurate to call it murder from a technical legal perspective. In law, for it to be murder, the child would have had to be classified as a life in being - that is living independently of the mother. Clearly, since the child was stil in utero, that test is not satisfied. However, personally, I think describing it as murder is spot on from a moral point of view.
That was just two examples off the top of my head. Would you want to bring a child into this world that is guaranteed to be screwed from the off set? I sure as hell wouldn't!