AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

[alec]

sad to see people excited about 16GB ram kits.
Its 2019, 16GB is no longer enough!

Any dual rank compatibility or performance gain info?

 

[DragonQ]

sad to see people excited about 16GB ram kits.
Its 2019, 16GB is no longer enough!

Any dual rank compatibility or performance gain info?

According to ASRock's motherboard descriptions, official support for 2x dual rank sticks on Matisse is 3200 MT/s, so that should be the minimum the IMC can do. For reference, Pinnacle Ridge was 2933 MT/s.

 

[orbitalwalsh]

B550 will still be ASMedia and only to PCIe 3.0 standard.

How do you know this? It seems very unlikely that B550 won't have PCIE4.0.

The chipset sure, but the CPU is still PCIe 4 with the much-improved IMC. With X570 prices being as high as they are, they're going to be enthusiast, almost niche purchases, there is no way in hell AMD will have gone to the trouble of better IMC and PCIe 4 if it was restricted to low-volume niche sales.

B550 will have a PCIe 4 option for 1 GPU and 1 NVMe SSD as that's bolted directly to the CPU and within 6 inches, everything else will be PCIe 3 so the board as a whole doesn't need a server-grade PCB and retimers all over the shop.

Gaming X/Aorus is a clear shot of lowering Prices, only featuring 1 x16 PCIe 4.0 and ONLY ONE M.2 support PCIe 4.0 for nvme

B550 could be powered by Ryzens 24 PCIe 4.0 lanes just like the budget two above boards but with VRM, wifi, PCB , ram design all limited . mATX form will also cut costs down

 

[Deleted member 209350]

Will the b450 carbon pro be ok with the 16 core 3950x at stock?

I have the same board, and i fear it might not be able to.

Well actually, I do think it'll handle it but highly doubtful if there are plans on overclocking

 

[brightside229]

sad to see people excited about 16GB ram kits.
Its 2019, 16GB is no longer enough!

Any dual rank compatibility or performance gain info?

According to who? and doing what? Theirs a very informative video on you tube that shows difference between 8gb, 16gb and 32gb in a lot of modern games, from 8gb -16 their was marginal difference and between 16gb to 32 their was zero difference and most games did not come close to using the 16gb

 

[Zeed]

sad to see people excited about 16GB ram kits.
Its 2019, 16GB is no longer enough!

Any dual rank compatibility or performance gain info?

Link us a game benchmark that proofs that 16gb is not enough.. After windows loads im sitting at 14300 free physical memory. I Think Division 2 barely hits 7000mb@4k from what I'w seen rescently. Monster Hunter World was around 6000mb

 

[alec]

According to who? and doing what? Theirs a very informative video on you tube that shows difference between 8gb, 16gb and 32gb in a lot of modern games, from 8gb -16 their was marginal difference and between 16gb to 32 their was zero difference and most games did not come close to using the 16gb

This question in a thread where many try to find an excuse to justify 12 or 16 core cpu?
Judging from that video would you consider 8gb enough? All it tells you is that a gaming benchmark is a bad judge on ram capacity.
Anyway, I want more ram. And I remember Ryzen liking dual rank, so really curious if that 3733 sweet spot becomes even sweeter with high end dual rank 32GB kits.

 

[Deleted member 209350]

Jesus christ what a ******* beast. And its only the 3700x!!

 

[Deleted member 209350]

sad to see people excited about 16GB ram kits.
Its 2019, 16GB is no longer enough!

Any dual rank compatibility or performance gain info?

I think 16 is still plenty! its probably still the sweet spot for most people. But I do think within the next couple of years, 32 will become the norm

 

[Zeed]

This question in a thread where many try to find an excuse to justify 12 or 16 core cpu?
Judging from that video would you consider 8gb enough? All it tells you is that a gaming benchmark is a bad judge on ram capacity.
Anyway, I want more ram. And I remember Ryzen liking dual rank, so really curious if that 3733 sweet spot becomes even sweeter with high end dual rank 32GB kits.

Naaaa Ryzen likes Dual rank on 32mb kits 2 sticks > 4 sticks but allot depends on Motherboard. Crosshair 6 was better on 4 sticks Crosshair 7 with 2 sticks. That's what Asus told us about changes made in design.

 

[Potatowithearsontheside]

On Passmark we're seeing 3700X beat a 2700X by 35% MT, and losing by 3% to the 9900K in ST.
Given a 15% IPC improvement over Zen+, which was 3% behind Intel, the ST figure looks like it reflects 4.4GHz, and the MT figure suggests that it could be hitting the 4.4GHz on all cores (as well as some MT efficiency improvements).
The 3600 ST score looks like a 4.5GHz clock.

 

[brightside229]

This question in a thread where many try to find an excuse to justify 12 or 16 core cpu?
Judging from that video would you consider 8gb enough? All it tells you is that a gaming benchmark is a bad judge on ram capacity.
Anyway, I want more ram. And I remember Ryzen liking dual rank, so really curious if that 3733 sweet spot becomes even sweeter with high end dual rank 32GB kits.

Difference is you out right stated that 16gb WAS NOT ENOUGH. In regards to cpu cores pretty much everyone agrees that 12 and 16 cores for 99% of people is not needed. And it is more a question of "i want it" rather than "i need it or its needed"

 

[Zeed]

At this point I cant see me going 32 anytime soon. I will with Zen4 and DDR5 in 2021

 

[alec]

(... its not enough... for me?..)

 

[HRL]

(... its not enough... for me?..)

Pah, semantics.

16Gb is plenty for most people.

 

[brightside229]

At this point I cant see me going 32 anytime soon. I will with Zen4 and DDR5 in 2021

I am going from 8gb ddr 3 to 16gb ddr 4. from what i can see 16gb will be plenty for a long time to come for games.

 

[LePhuronn]

Don't know why everybody's squabbling over how much RAM is enough when it's a trivial matter to just download more.

 

[RavenXXX2]

 

[The Old School Gamer]

I've already got some Team Group B-die 3200C14 stuff. I'm saying if he's supposedly found a set of B-Die 3200C14 stuff for £70-80, then it probably isn't B-die.

Yup probably, but I didn't want to say it's trash just because he found something cheaper lol.
Sometimes cheap memory can overclock well (Buildzoid has proven it).

My main point was the Dark Pro memory is B-Die and proven to OC quite well for most people... so if in doubt just stick to what works.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

The Ryzen 9 3900X flashed up at £479.99 briefly at a major UK retailer before the listing was taken down.