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AMD Zen 5 rumours
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5800X to a 9800X3D would be something like 50% maybe?
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Interesting, I assumed the boards would have launched at the same time as the first round of CPU's.
My wallet will be pleased.
What about the higher end cpu's like the 7800X3D, 7900X3D & 7950x3D ?
Is there even new ones coming out to replace these ?
They're coming, just a question of when.Is there even new ones coming out to replace these ?
AMD is 'working actively on really cool differentiators' to make the next generation of 3D V-cache 'even better'
X3D versions of Ryzen 9000-series chips won't be announced for a good while, though.
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Obviously i was comparing 8c to 8c you donkIs there even new ones coming out to replace these ?
I just looked and the 7800X3D is listed as 8 coreObviously i was comparing 8c to 8c you donk
So do you think the new 9800X3D is also going be about 50% faster then the 7800X3D
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No, I was comparing going from a 5800X to the possible 9800X3D, and only then at low resolutions. Prob be a bit near that but not quite imo.
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I normally try to upgrade my system when i can get around double the performance
like my last upgrade was from i7-8700k/2080ti to i9-14900k/4090 so i may have to wait a few more years
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I read somewhere this week that the new boards are coming at the time time as X3D, and read elsewhere that the MSI new boards are released on 30th Sept, ergo X3D 30th Sept f these reports are true
This might not happen anymore in general use like gaming, though. With new series some instructions seem to have gotten big performance jump but games don't use these pretty much at all currently, so the general performance jump between 7k and 9k series will likely be around 10% only, unless they do something really fancy with 3d cache. We are almost at the limits of the silicon as is already, changes from now on will likely be very incremental and small between series.
Yes 30th Sept https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-x870-motherboards-expected-to-launch-in-late-september
I speculate X3D needs very fast ram for the "sweet spot", which is why they are releasing with the new boards (which go upto 8000mhz) together. Only guessing though
I speculate X3D needs very fast ram for the "sweet spot", which is why they are releasing with the new boards (which go upto 8000mhz) together. Only guessing though
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According to Videocardz (quoting Wccftech - yes, I know!
), 9000X3D will support overclocking across the board: https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryz...ocking-zen5-gets-improved-ddr5-memory-supportOn the memory speed front they note:
The same outlet has also shared details regarding Zen5 memory support and overclockability. The new series is said to consume less power and support enhanced overclocking for DDR5 kits. Based on preliminary data collected from qualification samples (which will be identical or better than retail units), the Ryzen 9000 series still targets DDR5-6000 memory as a sweet spot, but the upper limit will be increased to 6400 MT/s while maintaining a 1:1 FCLK (Infinity Fabric) to MCLK (Memory Clock) ratio. Furthermore, they will support up to 8000 MT/s EXPO memory in a 1:2 ratio with 4-DIMM mode.
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Makes sense, same IO unit as Zen4. Not due to change until Zen6 where they'll be using a new 3nm unit (rumoured ofc).According to Videocardz (quoting Wccftech - yes, I know!
On the memory speed front they note:
The same outlet has also shared details regarding Zen5 memory support and overclockability. The new series is said to consume less power and support enhanced overclocking for DDR5 kits. Based on preliminary data collected from qualification samples (which will be identical or better than retail units), the Ryzen 9000 series still targets DDR5-6000 memory as a sweet spot, but the upper limit will be increased to 6400 MT/s while maintaining a 1:1 FCLK (Infinity Fabric) to MCLK (Memory Clock) ratio. Furthermore, they will support up to 8000 MT/s EXPO memory in a 1:2 ratio with 4-DIMM mode.
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Why would X3D CPUs need fast RAM? The Zen3 and Zen4 X3D CPUs benefited less from fast RAM than the standard CPUs.
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According to Videocardz (quoting Wccftech - yes, I know!
On the memory speed front they note:
The same outlet has also shared details regarding Zen5 memory support and overclockability. The new series is said to consume less power and support enhanced overclocking for DDR5 kits. Based on preliminary data collected from qualification samples (which will be identical or better than retail units), the Ryzen 9000 series still targets DDR5-6000 memory as a sweet spot, but the upper limit will be increased to 6400 MT/s while maintaining a 1:1 FCLK (Infinity Fabric) to MCLK (Memory Clock) ratio. Furthermore, they will support up to 8000 MT/s EXPO memory in a 1:2 ratio with 4-DIMM mode.
So they are saying X3D will be best on the new boards with 4 sticks of ram ??
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9000+ with 2 DIMMs in 1:2?According to Videocardz (quoting Wccftech - yes, I know!
On the memory speed front they note:
The same outlet has also shared details regarding Zen5 memory support and overclockability. The new series is said to consume less power and support enhanced overclocking for DDR5 kits. Based on preliminary data collected from qualification samples (which will be identical or better than retail units), the Ryzen 9000 series still targets DDR5-6000 memory as a sweet spot, but the upper limit will be increased to 6400 MT/s while maintaining a 1:1 FCLK (Infinity Fabric) to MCLK (Memory Clock) ratio. Furthermore, they will support up to 8000 MT/s EXPO memory in a 1:2 ratio with 4-DIMM mode.
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AMD Ryzen 9000 preorders start in Europe: 9950X at €660, 9600X at €310 - VideoCardz.com
First Ryzen 9000 CPUs go on sale: €310 to €660 with availability in September A Slovenian retailer has put four of AMD’s upcoming Ryzen 9000 CPUs up for preorder. Yes, this is the very first preorder for Zen5 desktop, but be aware that shipments will start no sooner than August 2nd. However...
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Might as well not release the 9700x at this point. Then again it’s AMD pricing so expect cuts within a month lol