Check Your 4090's 12vhpwr Connectors To Make Sure They are in Pristine Condition

Gerard · 30 Oct 2022 at 23:35

arknor said:
people could be buying there connector then trashign the nvidia one because they feel some grudge against paying so much money for a GPU.

Could even be cable mod themselves to drum up business, seems like they whipped everyone into buying their product, they are crazy active on reddit promoting the cable since the release of these cards.

Some of the melted connectors look suspect as hell... if they are plugged in when melting how can some melt into a shape that wouldn't fit in the slot?

why do they melt from the outside in? the heat should be coming from the pin.... not outside the connector, unless they are purely melting from bad airflow and super high case temps

I feel a quite from Dads Army coming on:

You're delving into the realms of fantasy there. Cablemod would be sued into oblivion by nvidia if something like that was found to be true. People buying a 2k gpu then feeling outrage at choosing to spend that money and setting about a misinformation campaign about the connector? Seriously? If you honestly believe any of this then you're probably also someone that was out during covid with a £5 radiation detector off ebay pointing it at a 5g mast.

Gerard · 30 Oct 2022 at 23:41

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Richeh · 30 Oct 2022 at 23:59

I don't have a 4090 (currently 3090 and barely game atm so no point). But as someone who has had Nvidia/AMD switching various generations I can't help but feel like this is majorly overblown topic. There could possibly be an issue with the construction of these cables but when several Youtubers have tried everything possible to re-create and are unable to do so, and in retrospect to the amount of cards that would have been sold so few melting cable issues I would side with user error without any bias in the mix. If someone is able to re-create the issue then fair enough but at this point it is what maybe a couple of dozen if that melted connectors? Not good, correct but all electronics have x amount of faulty units and my estimation at looking at amount of overall cards sold and the amount of melted connectors would point to it being lower than 1%.

Purgatory · 31 Oct 2022 at 00:01

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That's a lot of ASUS TUF cards now

.. I really am starting to wonder if it's the cards doing it too and not the adapters or the connectors but some sort of power issue in the cards causing the weakest electrical point to be exposed and a badly fitting connector or badly inserted one may be showing the weak spot .

Can't wait for them to actually find the issue now as this is now getting scary and this guys burnt connector is in the middle pins and not so much the outer ones like others. How would a middle pin not be connected all the way when rest pushed in right.

So far no FE cards ..

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List of Confirmed Cases

Date	Post	Card Brand/Model	Adapter Type
October 24	Link Here	Gigabyte 4090 Gaming OC?	4x 8 pins
October 24	Link Here	Asus TUF 4090	4x 8 pins
October 25	Link Here	Asus TUF 4090	4x 8 pins
October 26	Link Here	Asus TUF 4090	4x 8 pins
October 26	Link Here	Galax 4090 SG	4x 8 pins??
October 27	Link Here	MSI Suprim X 4090	4x 8 pins
October 27	Link Here	Asus TUF 4090	4x 8 pins
October 27	Link Here	MSI Suprim Liquid X 4090	4x 8 pins
October 28	Link Here	Asus TUF 4090	4x 8 pins
October 28	Link Here	MSI Gaming X Trio 4090	3x 8 pins
October 29	Link Here	Gigabyte 4090 Gaming OC	4x 8 pins
October 29	Link Here	Asus TUF 4090	4x 8 pins
October 29	Link Here	MSI Gaming X Trio 4090	3x 8 pins
October 29	Link Here	Gigabyte 4090 Gaming OC	4x 8 pins
October 30	Link Here	Asus TUF 4090	4x 8 pins

List of Unconfirmed Cases

Date	Post	Card Brand/Model	Adapter Type
October 28	Link Here 1	Zotac Amp Extreme Airo 4090	4x 8 pins
October 28	Link Here 2	Asus Strix 4090	4x 8 pins
October 29	Link Here 3	MSI Gaming X Trio 4090	3x 8 pins
October 30	Link Here 4	Zotac Trinity OC 4090	4x 8 pins

Darujhistan · 31 Oct 2022 at 00:12

arknor said:
people could be buying there connector then trashign the nvidia one because they feel some grudge against paying so much money for a GPU.

Could even be cable mod themselves to drum up business, seems like they whipped everyone into buying their product, they are crazy active on reddit promoting the cable since the release of these cards.

Some of the melted connectors look suspect as hell... if they are plugged in when melting how can some melt into a shape that wouldn't fit in the slot?

why do they melt from the outside in? the heat should be coming from the pin.... not outside the connector, unless they are purely melting from bad airflow and super high case temps

So to recap, and this is my favourite bit - People are buying a new connector and therefore spending more money on their GPU, when they're already ****** off about spending too much money on a GPU in the first place?

:cry:

arknor · 31 Oct 2022 at 00:17

tinfoil is the people making it into a big deal and pretending it's every adapter, your house will burn down

Another one claiming they didn't plug it all the way in for a picture... but only after people point it out... starting to see a pattern here.

Some people shouldn't be allowed to build a pc

Darujhistan · 31 Oct 2022 at 00:21

arknor said:
tinfoil is the people making it into a big deal and pretending it's every adapter, your house will burn down

Same straw man again I see, literally no one has said it's every adapter except YOU...

Jay-G25 · 31 Oct 2022 at 00:24

Grim5 said:
So you have the dud adaptor. Is your melting?

No was absolutely fine , no burning or melting at all and used for 2 weeks daily .

arknor · 31 Oct 2022 at 00:31

Darujhistan said:
Same straw man again I see, literally no one has said it's every adapter except YOU...

plenty of people in this thread have

Purgatory · 31 Oct 2022 at 00:32

arknor said:
tinfoil is the people making it into a big deal and pretending it's every adapter, your house will burn down

Another one claiming they didn't plug it all the way in for a picture... but only after people point it out... starting to see a pattern here.

Some people shouldn't be allowed to build a pc

This is what I was worried about that people are not pushing them in all the way and scared to break something by putting more pressure on. This is really only way I see this happening if there is no real fault with the adaptor or the connectors.

Also what worries me is why is the connector so hard to get in place correctly for some ? Is there bad mechanical tolerance issues with the adaptor to some connectors on the cards too?

Time to shine a torch down the connector of the card and the things are now so deep in the cards now that it may still be difficult to see if they are totally clicked in.

arknor · 31 Oct 2022 at 01:00

Purgatory said:
Also what worries me is why is the connector so hard to get in place correctly for some ? Is there bad mechanical tolerance issues with the adaptor to some connectors on the cards too?

mine takes a bit of force but you can hear the click.

11:36 doesn't help when some people were saying don't push it in hard... before the cards even came out

But anyway it seems people keep posting pictures to show how there setup was with it plugged in but then backtracking after people say it wasn't plugged in all the way on purpose...

why post the picture if you know it's not plugged in properly? all it's showing is how to not plug it in... but they were clearly meaning to show it "was plugged in right"

Gerard · 31 Oct 2022 at 01:56

arknor said:
tinfoil is the people making it into a big deal and pretending it's every adapter, your house will burn down

Vs the person saying people are buying these and faking this situation to make nvidia look bad.....because everyone has a spare 2 grand knocking about to **** away on a gpu and create a fake situation for the lulz...apparently..I think you need to step back and look at the spiel you're peddling....

DDH · 31 Oct 2022 at 02:48

Purgatory said:
This is what I was worried about that people are not pushing them in all the way and scared to break something by putting more pressure on. This is really only way I see this happening if there is no real fault with the adaptor or the connectors.

Also what worries me is why is the connector so hard to get in place correctly for some ? Is there bad mechanical tolerance issues with the adaptor to some connectors on the cards too?

Time to shine a torch down the connector of the card and the things are now so deep in the cards now that it may still be difficult to see if they are totally clicked in.

Read what the guy said, it's not pushed all the way in because the Pic was take after it burnt up. He put it back there to show what it used to look like before burning and he didnt want to force it all the way in after it had burnt because the melted plastic was resisting going back in.

Tired9 · 31 Oct 2022 at 04:06

All I know is I could kiss my 3070 for being a beautiful reliable card, I am saddened Nvidia have done the people who bought their flagship 4000 series over.
Except for Arknor of course, if his melss, it is well deserved, I will just say that sometimes those twinkling stars do serve justice.

arknor · 31 Oct 2022 at 04:07

DDH said:
Read what the guy said, it's not pushed all the way in because the Pic was take after it burnt up. He put it back there to show what it used to look like before burning and he didnt want to force it all the way in after it had burnt because the melted plastic was resisting going back in.

why put it back in after to take a pic? shows what? just doesn't want to admit user error.

if it were true they would state it in the original post also

Except for Arknor of course, if his melss, it is well deserved, I will just say that sometimes those twinkling stars do serve justice.

been using it fine for over 2 weeks , almost 3

Tired9 · 31 Oct 2022 at 04:09

arknor said:
why put it back in after to take a pic? shows what? just doesn't want to admit user error.

if it were true they would state it in the original post also

AMD drivers with 5700-XT "User error".
You are the same person who did that, same mentality.

Tired9 · 31 Oct 2022 at 04:10

Plugged in my USB drive into the USB over 30 times, no issues, decided today I would use the front panel one, burnt the PC to the ground.

"User error".

Yes these USB ports be real complex yo.

/S

EastCoastHandle · 31 Oct 2022 at 04:22

This is how the 12VHPWR connection is done correctly: Crimping instead of stupid soldering and how to supply the GeForce RTX 4090 with power properly. And we learn, what wrong bending can cause

https://twitter.com/IgorWallossek/status/1586196490422296577?cxt=HHwWgoC9ubrTpoMsAAAA

arknor · 31 Oct 2022 at 04:38

wrong bending doesn't seem to cause anything as seen by multiple users who tried it, if his theory were correct the melting wouldn't be at the tips it would be where the wires enter the plastic around the solder joints.

Maybe some cards are faulty, seem the connectors are full proof according to multiple tests done and videoed on youtube

mattp1986 · 31 Oct 2022 at 05:19

I have a 4090 in a 011 Evo with a CableMod 12vhpwr 4x8 pin to 12 vhpwr adapter cable. Haven't had any problems so far, ran with side panel off for the first week or so as I was worried about bending the connector but after seeing recent testing from Gamers Nexus, Jayz2cents etc I'm beginning to wonder if bending the connector is the issue.
Far more likely to be faulty adapter cables from Nvidia tbh as I've yet to see a post of melted connectors from anyone using an ATX3.0 cable or the solution from Corsair or CableMod.
The cablemod connector is noticeably tougher and feels solid compared to the flimsy adapter included with the card.
For the past few days I have closed the side panel putting a slight bend on the connection and no problems at all so far.
Plan to order a 90 degree adapter for piece of mind ultimately, I expect Nvidia and the PCB partners will start shipping the 90 degree adapters with future cards