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DirectX 12

Who says DX12 is a console port?

It was on the cards for future release (like all before it) even before the consoles arrived.

You know from this thread Nvidia were more involved than AMD this time around, AMD thought mantle was the next big thing and was going to kill off DX.
 
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Who says DX12 is a console port?

It was on the cards for future release (like all before it) even before the consoles arrived.

You know from this thread Nvidia were more involved than AMD this time around, AMD though mantle was the next big thing and was going to kill off DX.

The API was conceived to combat the performance deficit the XB1 has vs the PS4. it is for the XB1 ported to the PC, the XB1 is an AMD system.

Nvidia made a lot of PR about being involved with DX12, they said they had been involved for a log time. they never said they are involved for longer.

Intel, AMD and Nvidia, they are all involved in DX12 Nvidia, just made a lot of noise about it.
 
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Actually it was MS who said Nvidia were working with them, exact wording is in this thread somewhere.

And again ported, says who AMD?

DX12 would have came out regardless of consoles or mantle eventually, peeps cried every new DX before as they needed new cards most times so when MS said DX12 would not be coming for a while (ages ago).

It was not a bad thing as most games were still DX9cCported to newer DX for PC, very few "from ground up DX11" games back then.
 
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The API was conceived to combat the performance deficit the XB1 has vs the PS4. it is for the XB1 ported to the PC, the XB1 is an AMD system.

Nvidia made a lot of PR about being involved with DX12, they said they had been involved for a log time. they never said they are involved for longer.

Intel, AMD and Nvidia, they are all involved in DX12 Nvidia, just made a lot of noise about it.


Do you have a MS link for this or just speculating?
 
Do you have a MS link for this or just speculating?

Before Mantle, shortly after the release of the XB1, when it became clear that the PS4 was better, There was a statement from Microsoft about (what was dubbed by other as DX12) being developed for it to improve its performance.

After Mantle was when Microsoft announced the API to be released for PC with Nvidia riding that bandwagon.

I will try to find the links, but they are old now.
 
So you dont have a MS link saying DX12 was primary developed for Xbone and ported for pc and work on it was only started after mantle was announced? Despite you stating this?
If not its speculation sorry on your end
 
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Made up, link to MS announcement (horses mouth) is in this thread somewhere.

Nvidia are riding the bandwagon now?

Its inconvenient to your argument, so it must be a lie. that is what you always resort too.

One thing you know yourself is that Microsoft said nothing about any new API for PC's until after Mantle.

Yes Nvidia are riding the bandwagon.
 
I always resort to what exactly?

You constantly spam Nvidia/DX threads with mantle nonsense, so that is what you always resort to.

You have never once gave any proof to anything to back it up even when others showed you it was wrong.

I do not have any issues with you but you sure do spout some right mantle fanboy nonsense with no proof.

MS mentioned DX12 long ago before mantle or the new consoles were launched and said it would not be coming for a good while.

DX11 had not took off fully and DX10 never really did so again it was not a bad thing.
 
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DX12 is a cross platform development-Xbone/PC/Windows phone/Tablets.

DX12 isn't favoured with Nvidia over AMD/Intel and the rest especially when you consider the fact that total gpu market share is Intel>AMD>Nvidia.
 
I am pretty sure it was said that DX12 was being released to Xbox one before PC. With this in mind i assume it was designed with Xbox one being the main platform for it. You can bet PC gaming is coming second to Xbox one as that's where the money is at. If it benefit's the PC in a good way who really cares but it would be foolish to think that Xbox is not in front of PC where DX12 is concerned.
 
I am pretty sure it was said that DX12 was being released to Xbox one before PC. With this in mind i assume it was designed with Xbox one being the main platform for it. You can bet PC gaming is coming second to Xbox one as that's where the money is at. If it benefit's the PC in a good way who really cares but it would be foolish to think that Xbox is not in front of PC where DX12 is concerned.

XBone is MS's lead gaming platform, that's where the $ talks with MS in regards to gaming.

This. It's just common sense. Xbone1 is their main priority, that's why it will get DX12 first. The hype is dying down and that article seems to be saying DX12 will be a poor mans Mantle. If that is true then Mantle can still survive after DX12 has launched imo. Time will tell.
 
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It's going to be really interesting to see what happens between DX12 and Mantle that's for sure, i think it's great, nothing like a good fight between companies for us gamers.
 
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It's going to be really interesting to see what happens between DX12 and Mantle that's for sure, i think it's great, nothing like a good fight between companies for us gamers.

Yes if both are competing to make their api better and faster than the other i can only see a win for us pc gamers
 
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