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Doctor Who

Discussion in 'Music, Box Office, TV & Books' started by Feek, Apr 15, 2006.

  1. Tombstone

    Capodecina

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    Now now, come along, play the game..you know the internet is 50% about arguing and venting your real life frustrations :D


    (the other 50% is about porn of course)
     
  2. Ekim

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    This is my take on it, and I am prepared to be corrected. There aren't enough female heroes in general. Generally I think the producers of TV Shows/Films don't generally believe people want to watch shows with female leads. They don't think it sells. You could create a new IP with a Female lead, but it is unlikely to be bought because of this belief it won't sell. However if you use an existing IP you get the opportunity to show it can work and potentially lead the way for new IP in the future with female leads.
     
  3. chroniclard

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    They can bring back Buffy and Dark Angel and I wont complain. :p
     
  4. Tombstone

    Capodecina

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    There certainly arent many with female leads, I think many of the best female lead tv shows are from quite a while ago, stuff like Cagney and Lacey, Juliet Bravo, Buffy the Vampire Slayer etc. I guess in recent movie franchises, you'd have to look to stuff like the Alien films, the Resident Evil franchise and the Underworld movies for female leads.
     
  5. DrToffnar

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    So there's 4... only a couple thousand more and you could use that statistic to bolster your argument.

    It's all very well saying 'make more female role models' (which they have been doing), but if that 'role model' doesn't make any money...

    If we're going to say this is 'appropriation', I'd say good. If that's actually what it's going to take for women to be more culturally accepted as 'hero' characters, lets get it done.

    Oh boy, I can feel the hate already xD
     
  6. Steampunk

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    I just wish they'd done what the Trek people did. They didn't reboot with a female Kirk, they did Voyager with Janeaway, who is a fantastic female character that had her own series and didn't hang off anyone's coat-tails. We need more good female characters, not less male ones. It just seems lazy and shows a lack of faith that they couldn't do a new character in a new show.
     
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  7. Tombstone

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    Hehe, thats the internet for you, its full of hate. Sure I remember reading an article somewhere once that said the internet was the playground of angry middle aged people :D
     
  8. Tombstone

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    On the plus side in the ST regard, the new series has a female captain and a female first officer :)
     
  9. Dj_Jestar

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    Except the times where he has said, on many occasion, and not just recently, that he has been a woman in the past.
     
  10. Tombstone

    Capodecina

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    So, to go back to the question I asked earlier, does anyone with a good knowledge of the Lore know if there has ever been a non human timeperson? Can they regenerate as another species or do they essentially have to always have gallifrey physiology?
     
  11. sk3lph

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    We could have had Swiss Doctor, "Driving the TARDIS is very much like making love to a beautiful woman....."

    Thread derailment could happen with suggestions for the end of that sentence. :)
     
  12. ZXSpectrum

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    I don't have a problem with it. I do hope that they get their writing sorted tho. Less of all this BS Lefty rubbish crammed in for the PC crowd.
     
  13. Steampunk

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    Bigger on the inside...?
     
  14. Tombstone

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    "Driving the TARDIS is very much like making love to a beautiful woman......... a whole lot of noise and not a lot of movement.
     
  15. Judgeneo

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    I'd have preferred it if they kept it male, and just made a new series with a female lead. As we've seen with the master, changing the gender of a character changes the personality quite considerably, I fear that the Doctor won't really be the doctor anymore.

    We can but hope that having a female lead ticks enough PC boxes for them to concentrate properly on the story...
     
  16. chroniclard

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    Its not political correctness, its equality and fairness. Feminism isn't a bad word.

    There is no valid reason the Doctor couldn't/shouldn't be a women. ;)
     
  17. ttaskmaster

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    None of them are human. They are all Timelord. Timelord is the name of their species.
    Whether a Timelord and a Gallifreian are the exact same thing, or if Timelords live on other planets as well, remains to be seen...
     
  18. Tombstone

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    Well, you know what I mean, human looking. Can a timeperson regenerate as a different species? Could they regenerate as a Sea Devil or an Ice Warrior or something, a Sontaran timeperson would be pretty cool :)
     
  19. DrToffnar

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    Aha indeed. We may disagree, but at least it's a relatively civil discussion.
     
  20. ttaskmaster

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    One of the companions once said, "You look human", to which the Doc responds, "No, you look Timelord".
    Therefore, I'd suspect the answer is no - The basic DNA/appearance of a Timelord is not only humanoid, but very human.
    Plus, it'd be a nightmare for any actor having to regularly don makeup and prosthetics every time.
     


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