Forza Motorsport (10/10/23)
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Lack of developer talent.
It is a bit like Starfield. Doesn't push visuals at ALL (and actually looks worse in some aspects than older games), yet has stupid hardware demands. I don't mind worse FPS if a game actually pushes boundaries and looks awesome. Starfield and now this very much have "wtf?" performance.
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Thought this game was "built from the ground up" lol?
looks a lot like shift 2 or a 10 year old forza motorsport game.
Cyberpunk probably has more realistic engine sounds... games moves on in 10 years, just not this one
anyone remember when racing games looked good, and had tons of content,. felt run to drive...
they can probably speed up the slow progression if you grease their grubby hands with silver. after paying what was it 60-90 $ for whats basically forza 7 with a bunch of content cut out so they can sell it you later
a decade ago this would have been a 100 page thread by now with ocuk leaderboards up for laptimes.,,
seems the customer base has been extracted to death in this genre, last gen for next gen hyperinflated prices... NO THANKS
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Soldato
I mean you could probably argue a few points. But to answer the main question "What does this do that has not been done countless times before?". From what I can see... Not a lot at all. Dosnt make it a bad game but its just nothing special at the moment. I think it would take a LOT to make it special.Just tried a bit this evening.
I'm really lost with gaming at the moment. What does this do that has not been done countless times before (and often better)?
Tis took ages to develop/come out and it is massively "meh".
Even the graphics are extremely average by today's standards.
Seems a bit buggy as well.
I've had over 5 days of playing so far. I've really tried and really wanted to like this. My overall experience so far is underwhelming. Graphics aint terrible, but I expected a lot more. When you have full on simulators with significantly less budget looking better, you got to think something is wrong. ACC for me is much more pleasing to the eye. Yes it has a lot less post processing and lacks some of the sparkle of recent titles, but it ACC has a much better aesthetic, models and in my opinion textures. I'll give it to FM the environmental effects with mist and light transitions does look good and is very atmospheric, but it almost feels like they blew the budget on that and forgot the star of the show the cars...
How many models look like ass, lots of old reused poor models, the textures just look sub-par as well. its all very very underwhelming.
Thats all before the lack of accessibility to the content yeah you can buy the cars but all the upgrades are behind a grind wall. I've completed the first tier of the builders cup and I'm already growing weary of the same rinse and repeat mechanic.
What really is starting to bug me though the AI that act like 12yo kids in a forza lobby, and the completely bizarre handling model. I know Forza isnt really a sim, but its unlike any other racing games I've played. It feels unnatural. I'm racing on tracks that I know like the back of my hand. I know relativistic braking points and steering input that should be required, Yes that can vary a lot by car but usually its easy enough to judge with in a few corners. Forza just dosnt feel like it proscribes to any standard model of physics. Its feels like a vague approximation with no real attempt at reality. I feel disconnected and awkward. Almost like I'm throwing dice to see how the car will take the next sequence of corners.
Like I've already said, I'll probably play through most of the career mode. I might even pick it up every now and then when I dont fancy full on hardcore sim racing. However, this game will not go down as a classic...
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I bothered to download the game even though everyone says its crap.
I'm not even out of the tutorial and the graphics seemed to have gone wrong.
whats with the track? and look how low res the adverts are on the track wall etc I havent wtnessed such high resolution track barriers since Gran Turismo on the ps1 or sega rally on the dream cast
Witness the power of a 4090.... I turned all the settings from auto > Ultra/high btw so it shouldn't be changing the graphics to meet some fps target
The track texture seems be only showing the reflection layer on a pure black surface or something, it looks like water underneath at parts of the track
oh wait I figured it out. its the sky
part of the track is still without RTX skybox road textures! blasphemy
why does this game love unskippable turorials? makes me want to alt tab and play a different game whilst I'm waiting for the voice to shut up and let me skip...
I want to murder thew woman already.... she even tells you what practice is just in case the words definition suddenly changed in the last few thousand years.
done... alt +f4 before I even get to the second race the game assumes your some 0- iq person who never played a game before and won't let you just skip the ****
peice of crap even turned my keyboard to US !!!! just to annoy me even more
Built From The Ground UP yet has the app id of forza horizon 5 int the bottom corner
BTW is the weird juddering motion around corners supposed to be a design decision to somehow visually show the cars micro sliding around? or just a symptom of a buggy mess of an engine?
I'm not even out of the tutorial and the graphics seemed to have gone wrong.
whats with the track? and look how low res the adverts are on the track wall etc I havent wtnessed such high resolution track barriers since Gran Turismo on the ps1 or sega rally on the dream cast
Witness the power of a 4090.... I turned all the settings from auto > Ultra/high btw so it shouldn't be changing the graphics to meet some fps target
The track texture seems be only showing the reflection layer on a pure black surface or something, it looks like water underneath at parts of the track
oh wait I figured it out. its the sky
part of the track is still without RTX skybox road textures! blasphemy
why does this game love unskippable turorials? makes me want to alt tab and play a different game whilst I'm waiting for the voice to shut up and let me skip...
I want to murder thew woman already.... she even tells you what practice is just in case the words definition suddenly changed in the last few thousand years.
done... alt +f4 before I even get to the second race the game assumes your some 0- iq person who never played a game before and won't let you just skip the ****
peice of crap even turned my keyboard to US !!!! just to annoy me even more
Built From The Ground UP yet has the app id of forza horizon 5 int the bottom corner
BTW is the weird juddering motion around corners supposed to be a design decision to somehow visually show the cars micro sliding around? or just a symptom of a buggy mess of an engine?
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There are one or two issues with the game.I bothered to download the game even though everyone says its crap.
I'm not even out of the tutorial and the graphics seemed to have gone wrong.
whats with the track? and look how low res the adverts are on the track wall etc I havent wtnessed such high resolution track barriers since Gran Turismo on the ps1 or sega rally on the dream cast
Witness the power of a 4090.... I turned all the settings from auto > Ultra/high btw so it shouldn't be changing the graphics to meet some fps target
The track texture seems be only showing the reflection layer on a pure black surface or something, it looks like water underneath at parts of the track
oh wait I figured it out. its the sky
part of the track is still without RTX skybox road textures! blasphemy
why does this game love unskippable turorials? makes me want to alt tab and play a different game whilst I'm waiting for the voice to shut up and let me skip...
I want to murder thew woman already.... she even tells you what practice is just in case the words definition suddenly changed in the last few thousand years.
done... alt +f4 before I even get to the second race the game assumes your some 0- iq person who never played a game before and won't let you just skip the ****
peice of crap even turned my keyboard to US !!!! just to annoy me even more
Built From The Ground UP yet has the app id of forza horizon 5 int the bottom corner
BTW is the weird juddering motion around corners supposed to be a design decision to somehow visually show the cars micro sliding around? or just a symptom of a buggy mess of an engine?
Forza Motorsport (10/10/23)
Well, that's the most fun I've had in a long time online. Just did my first multiplayer race at Laguna Seca, finished 5th out of ten, what a hoot! Love the collision system, wish they had something similar in FH5 to stop the mutts crashing into you at every opportunity without penalties.
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I bothered to download the game even though everyone says its crap.
I'm not even out of the tutorial and the graphics seemed to have gone wrong.
whats with the track? and look how low res the adverts are on the track wall etc I havent wtnessed such high resolution track barriers since Gran Turismo on the ps1 or sega rally on the dream cast
Witness the power of a 4090.... I turned all the settings from auto > Ultra/high btw so it shouldn't be changing the graphics to meet some fps target
The track texture seems be only showing the reflection layer on a pure black surface or something, it looks like water underneath at parts of the track
oh wait I figured it out. its the sky
part of the track is still without RTX skybox road textures! blasphemy
why does this game love unskippable turorials? makes me want to alt tab and play a different game whilst I'm waiting for the voice to shut up and let me skip...
I want to murder thew woman already.... she even tells you what practice is just in case the words definition suddenly changed in the last few thousand years.
done... alt +f4 before I even get to the second race the game assumes your some 0- iq person who never played a game before and won't let you just skip the ****
peice of crap even turned my keyboard to US !!!! just to annoy me even more
Built From The Ground UP yet has the app id of forza horizon 5 int the bottom corner
BTW is the weird juddering motion around corners supposed to be a design decision to somehow visually show the cars micro sliding around? or just a symptom of a buggy mess of an engine?
I had this black/see through track issue as well
Game seems to mostly be regurgitated trash. A mega disappointing release which i had been looking forward to for a while
seems to be most games these days.
I don't really see the point in this game when nothing has really moved on since number 7 about 6 years ago...
AAA games literally push no boundaries and just keep it simple these days it seems, even if they are apparently "built from the ground up"
what did they do take forza 7, lose the source code and basically tell some people to remake the game with half the content missing, don't worry about the graphics looking like a 2012 game.
add tutorials every other loading screen for the most basic features and make them need button inputs so people can't just afk through them.
I forced my self to do another few races, I'm supposed to be at watkins glen now, I just can't be bothered and doubt I will ever load it again, unless they fix RT that seems to do nothing and remove a bunch of the nagging tutorials because they are boring....
if you play on a keyboard then what half the keys claim they do in the key bindings don't even do what they are apparently set to....
Imagine the people who must have spent hundreds on a brand new wheel for this game and shelled at the 90£ for early access LOL
Imagine how good a game microsoft could make if their yearly gaming division profits werent only a round a lousy 15 billion $
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I find sequels like this really odd when they don't do anything.
I mean, love or hate the Codemasters F1 games, at the very least you get the new roster/liveries/cars/rules of the real sport. They have been hit and miss, but some years they have built a good game.
Forza Horizon at least gives you a whole new open world map to explore etc.
I have no idea what the purpose of this game is/what is actually new. I was expecting a really nicely fleshed out Motorsport game, a bit like Grid but with better graphics and physics.
I have no idea what this **** is they have made.
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I'm so glad I don't jump on new games straight away these days. I just wait for you lot to test/rage at the developers and I save money. Win! lol
Thanks to you lot I skipped Starfield, now this trash
Thanks to you lot I skipped Starfield, now this trash
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Soldato
Having Game Pass for 3 years at a total cost of like £90 means I can try these games out without any buyers remorseI'm so glad I don't jump on new games straight away these days. I just wait for you lot to test/rage at the developers and I save money. Win! lol
Thanks to you lot I skipped Starfield, now this trash
After FH5 I'm absolutely stunned MS allowed Motorsport to launch like this - is Phil Spencer so desperate for Game Pass content that he's willing to devalue the few remaining MS 'brands' all for the sake of having something *anything* for Game Pass subscribers to play? Halo's already a joke, now Forza has become something to point at and laugh rather than celebrate.
Also, this is Microsoft - they make the frickin' OS that Forza runs on for PC - their games should be the pinnacle of what's possible for PC gaming and they don't seem to give a crap about the platform. Baffling.
Soldato
The new Crew Motorfest looks like it has a 30 or 60 FPS lock regardless of online or not.
Soldato
I think Im gonna install Burnout Paradise!
My go-to racer when I'm bored is Outrun 2006 Coast-to-Coast
As a bonus, it's only 1GB to download
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I'm so glad I don't jump on new games straight away these days. I just wait for you lot to test/rage at the developers and I save money. Win! lol
Thanks to you lot I skipped Starfield, now this trash
Whilst still not brilliant, i enjoyed Starfield a lot more than i have been enjoying this.
Are the graphics really this bad or am I doing something wrong? I've cranked everything up as high as they will go, full ray tracing on, 100% render resolution, no DLSS etc. and it looks like a racing game from 10 years ago?! Real shame if this is the reality of this game as I've been looking forward to it for months. It doesn't even look half as good as FH5 which makes no sense as I assume they will have heavily based it on that...