Hazro - Any Update?
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Hi peeps. I've had my new Hazro HZ26Wi Rev2.1 since Tuesday. I've been monitoring this thread for what feels like years now, keeping the wallet firmly shut and looking out for whats around the corner. Sadly I couldn't resist much longer and took a punt regardless of the support, green pixel stuff over the screen etc. I couldn't justify spending over £700 on the NEC.
I am impressed with this screen, a few stuck pixels. Over the years I've been lucky to have had TFT's without any broken/stuck pixels until now, but at 1920x1200 and a screen this size I can barely see them unless get nice a close to the screen.
My main gripe is that I really wanted a decent screen for RGB (fit for screen not print) work. Now I assume the 26 has a wide gamut? Which isnt ideal for RGB work, I should know this from reading the 90 odd pages over the months; but is there any recommended way, guides, test screens etc to tone down the heavy contrast?
Playing with the OSD doesn't seem to get me anywhere close to being comfortable with it, to a point that the display might have to go back as I am still within the 7days. I have thought about getting a calibration doodad, I dont want to spend the earth on one, but my question is..
1. Will a calibration device get this screen to a decent level for RGB work?
2. If so, what device is best of this job?
Appreciate any advice from all you knowledgeable folk
I am impressed with this screen, a few stuck pixels. Over the years I've been lucky to have had TFT's without any broken/stuck pixels until now, but at 1920x1200 and a screen this size I can barely see them unless get nice a close to the screen.
My main gripe is that I really wanted a decent screen for RGB (fit for screen not print) work. Now I assume the 26 has a wide gamut? Which isnt ideal for RGB work, I should know this from reading the 90 odd pages over the months; but is there any recommended way, guides, test screens etc to tone down the heavy contrast?
Playing with the OSD doesn't seem to get me anywhere close to being comfortable with it, to a point that the display might have to go back as I am still within the 7days. I have thought about getting a calibration doodad, I dont want to spend the earth on one, but my question is..
1. Will a calibration device get this screen to a decent level for RGB work?
2. If so, what device is best of this job?
Appreciate any advice from all you knowledgeable folk
You'll need to keep the brightness at 50 for example but turn the contrast way down. My 24Wi is at 8 (eight) prior to calibration as that gives a pleasing look and feel.
You will need a calibration device though to finalise the display, there is quite a big difference between just tweaked by OSD and fine tuned afterwards with a calibrator!
You want a finish that is pumping out a dE of less than 1.0 with 6500K colour and 120cd/m2 (or as close as possible) for what is considered to be a standard for LCD screens.
I would recommend something like a Spyder 2 or 3 if you can get one cheap otherwise an i1Display/2 probe and then I can sort you out with Lacie's BlueEye Pro software (latest version) which Lacie will email you happily but it does take a while so I can save you time there
You will need a calibration device though to finalise the display, there is quite a big difference between just tweaked by OSD and fine tuned afterwards with a calibrator!
You want a finish that is pumping out a dE of less than 1.0 with 6500K colour and 120cd/m2 (or as close as possible) for what is considered to be a standard for LCD screens.
I would recommend something like a Spyder 2 or 3 if you can get one cheap otherwise an i1Display/2 probe and then I can sort you out with Lacie's BlueEye Pro software (latest version) which Lacie will email you happily but it does take a while so I can save you time there
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Thanks mrk, i'll check out what the damage to my wallet is with these calibrators.
I'm noticing a big difference in image quality between mac and windows (7). On Mac OS X its blury, with over saturated colours, and far to 'soft' looking, where as in windows the colours are great, everything is sharp. Makes be feel like I need to put glasses on when viewing in OS X. Nothing in the OS X (that I can find anyway) that can make it how Windows 7 looks with this display, which is frustrating.
Also - Should I have Sharpness set to 100? I am using DVI and at 0 or 100 I am not seeing much change, and I am used to seeing an option like this inactive when using DVI on other screens.
I'm noticing a big difference in image quality between mac and windows (7). On Mac OS X its blury, with over saturated colours, and far to 'soft' looking, where as in windows the colours are great, everything is sharp. Makes be feel like I need to put glasses on when viewing in OS X. Nothing in the OS X (that I can find anyway) that can make it how Windows 7 looks with this display, which is frustrating.
Also - Should I have Sharpness set to 100? I am using DVI and at 0 or 100 I am not seeing much change, and I am used to seeing an option like this inactive when using DVI on other screens.
Thats probably because of one or two things. First up Mac OS has always stuck at a gamma level of 1.8 instead of 2.2 which Windows uses. Thats set to change in 10.6 when 2.2 will become the standard. You can change it, though, using the built in calibration tool.
The other thing is how the OSs handle text. Many people dont like how OSX does things, since they're used to how Windows does things. Its all about the anti-aliasing and how they respect the original font. I can't really remember which one is truer to the font, but windows tends to be a bit better for LCD screens.
Unfortunately, theres not much you can do about that one. You could use Firefox for web browsing, since it renders things in its own way.
The other thing is how the OSs handle text. Many people dont like how OSX does things, since they're used to how Windows does things. Its all about the anti-aliasing and how they respect the original font. I can't really remember which one is truer to the font, but windows tends to be a bit better for LCD screens.
Unfortunately, theres not much you can do about that one. You could use Firefox for web browsing, since it renders things in its own way.
Hazro have finally replied.
After a lengthy chat with lutfur, I have the wheels in motion.
Apparently the warranty side of Hazro has been subcontracted out to a different company and the webnote contact form on their website isn't the way to contact support any more. You need to email: [email protected]
lets hope things go straight forward eh
After a lengthy chat with lutfur, I have the wheels in motion.
Apparently the warranty side of Hazro has been subcontracted out to a different company and the webnote contact form on their website isn't the way to contact support any more. You need to email: [email protected]
lets hope things go straight forward eh
What to do...
I purchased my HZ26WBi on 19/08/2008.
In december 2008 it went back to Hazro for the v2.1 firmware update and because the power supply had died.
In HDMI mode, the monitor doesn't go in to power save mode. It does in DVI - I thought this was suppose to be fixed in the v2.1 firmware?
I thought I could just "live" with this. But now I've noticed another recurring problem. I keep getting a snow/line/shifting pixel problem, which only seems to occur on certain colours (at the moment!).
One of the colours is #CCFFCC (RGB), I've set it to my desktop colour so I know when it's happening. I happens everyday several times. The only way to fix it is to turn the monitor off then immediately back on, it also only seems to happen in it's native resolution (although I haven't testing this for long, just switching back and forth between resolutions makes it appear/disappear).
Can somebody else test this by changing their desktop background to #CCFFCC?
I've contacted Hazro twice (once via the web form and once via [email protected]).
I'm now wondering if I should contact overclockers? It's really starting to get annoying. Spending so much on a monitor for the problems I get. A dead power supply, having to send it back, no power save mode, 2 dead pixels and a recurring colour shifting problem...
Thanks
I purchased my HZ26WBi on 19/08/2008.
In december 2008 it went back to Hazro for the v2.1 firmware update and because the power supply had died.
In HDMI mode, the monitor doesn't go in to power save mode. It does in DVI - I thought this was suppose to be fixed in the v2.1 firmware?
I thought I could just "live" with this. But now I've noticed another recurring problem. I keep getting a snow/line/shifting pixel problem, which only seems to occur on certain colours (at the moment!).
One of the colours is #CCFFCC (RGB), I've set it to my desktop colour so I know when it's happening. I happens everyday several times. The only way to fix it is to turn the monitor off then immediately back on, it also only seems to happen in it's native resolution (although I haven't testing this for long, just switching back and forth between resolutions makes it appear/disappear).
Can somebody else test this by changing their desktop background to #CCFFCC?
I've contacted Hazro twice (once via the web form and once via [email protected]).
I'm now wondering if I should contact overclockers? It's really starting to get annoying. Spending so much on a monitor for the problems I get. A dead power supply, having to send it back, no power save mode, 2 dead pixels and a recurring colour shifting problem...
Thanks
Dunno if you've done this already but when you email them its a good idea to quote a contact number.
As they do telephone in preference to email.
Good ole Hazro.
Received a HZ26SWi in replacement for my HZ24BWi.
I've finally got one with a black level lower than 1......0.59 to be precise Still high-ish compared to others I've heard, but calibrated to 120 cdm2 I can distinguish all but 1 and 2 on the lagom black level test and all in the white saturation with very little gradient banding to boot.
Other than 2 grey pixels I can say I'm pretty chuffed with this one.
its oooooge too
Received a HZ26SWi in replacement for my HZ24BWi.
I've finally got one with a black level lower than 1......0.59 to be precise
Still high-ish compared to others I've heard, but calibrated to 120 cdm2 I can distinguish all but 1 and 2 on the lagom black level test and all in the white saturation with very little gradient banding to boot.Other than 2 grey pixels I can say I'm pretty chuffed with this one.
its oooooge too
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took about 12 working days. But they sent me up a replacement power adapter.
I had about 50% success with replies using their webform and direct email address.
Didn't get any communication that they'd sent it up and it was on it's way. It also took 1 whole week to arrive after they'd sent it (but perhaps that's not their fault)
hopefully this adapter lasts.
I had about 50% success with replies using their webform and direct email address.
Didn't get any communication that they'd sent it up and it was on it's way. It also took 1 whole week to arrive after they'd sent it (but perhaps that's not their fault)
hopefully this adapter lasts.
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Yeah I get this problem as well. It comes and goes. right now I'm working in a design program and a block of #8C8051 has green dancing pixels.
When I needed a new monitor recently (after my crt died) I didn't think I'd have as many problems as I have had. I bought my first dell not realising about different panel technologies and the TN type I bought was horrible for design work but otherwise worked fine.
I then bought the IPS 24" HP monitor and it's dancing green pixel problem was horrendous.. and the whole screen flickered.
I thought it was the monitor as the dell had been fine and this was a totally new thing I'd seen on a monitor, so I ordered another HP and the same thing happened.
So again I had to search around and the Hazro looked like a good deal. It also has the green dancers from time to time... but nothing like the HP and I can live with it until I get a new computer.
I know I've gone a bit off topic, but I havent anyone else to share my monitor woes with!
Well, I've found a way to reliably reproduce the blue line isue on my HZ26Wi. It happens pretty frequently when playing Trine 
Guess I'll start by trying a higher quality DVI cable than the one Hazro provide, unless anyone has managed to solve this yet?
Guess I'll start by trying a higher quality DVI cable than the one Hazro provide, unless anyone has managed to solve this yet?
Theyre not that hard to make. But you would need use of a milling machine.
Perhaps if all else fails a local engineering shop.
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was having a good telephone chat to a warranty technician today and asked about this bracket.
he stated due to compatability problems that were raised by a large majority of people who had purchased it they decided to scrap the idea so its no longer available if interested as of the may just gone.
hazro is still alive and kicking and returning soon with a huge "BANG" As i was informed about the new lineip of screens due out in couple of months but i cant say much as i promised him
all i can say is think metal then think led 
all im saying ;Doh and sorry to say 30" are now dead im informed as most companies are now retreating from the 30" panel level due to lg ever inflating costs on the panels
sad day it is regards
HRhino"