*January Transfer Window 2014/15 Season Rumours/Signings*

Andybtsn said:
Shame he's got no end product as his dribbling is Messi-esq at times.
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FrankJH said:
please define crisis? What the media call crisis (to sell papers/ get page hits) doesn't mean anything

Barca sacked their Director of Football, and they lost a game - not exactly going to tear the club apart.



I mentioned soccerisma yesterday, I think telegraph more reliably had today that Utd had made a bid - have you seen anything more reliable?
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I wouldn't say reliable. Seen it on the Manchester evening news website.
 
Martin Odegaard has supposedly chose to sign for Real. So much for all the talk about him wanting to sign for a club that's best for his development and supposedly wanting to be a serious member of the first team squad within a year.
 
BaZ87 said:
Martin Odegaard has supposedly chose to sign for Real. So much for all the talk about him wanting to sign for a club that's best for his development and supposedly wanting to be a serious member of the first team squad within a year.
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Some of these kids are utter morons.
 
I can't remember the exact details but I remember reading a few weeks ago that Real offered him something stupid like a 6 or 8 year contract. As always, money talks.

The kid's meant to be a huge talent but I can't see him still being at Madrid in 4 years time.
 
What does annoy me is LVG quotes like this

“I think, as a trainer/coach and manager, that I have to analyse the performances of my players because that is the most important thing and that shows how far we are in the process.

“That is still not good enough, in my opinion, but I hope we shall improve.

“I am saying that a lot of times after matches
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How about the coaches performance? How many points do we have with 5 at the back vs 4? Even games we started with 5 defenders and then switched to 4 at half time we looked miles better. Yet we keep playing 5212
 
The Running Man said:
What does annoy me is LVG quotes like this



How about the coaches performance? How many points do we have with 5 at the back vs 4? Even games we started with 5 defenders and then switched to 4 at half time we looked miles better. Yet we keep playing 5212
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Well since we started this, what is it, 11 game unbeaten run with initially none of a new signings fit with 5 at the back. How'd we fair last season with a manager who'd dogmatically stick to a method and formation whatever the personnel...?

Long term with a solid fully fit defence he's even said, well intimated, he'll return to 4; 4-3-3 is his long term preferred formation.

I'm not sure why all the negativity. After last season, with the injury problems we've done pretty well and LVG has to take some of the credit.
 
Looks like Sissoko is off to PSG.

Probably another PSG flop like Cabaye? It's a shame we've turned into this feeder club now, NUFC fans have historically always adored any player that does a half decent job. Seems we can't do this anymore without fear of them leaving the next season.

Perez is another, the kid is top class, but he'll be away in the summer, if not next Jan window for sure.
 
The Running Man said:
What does annoy me is LVG quotes like this

How about the coaches performance? How many points do we have with 5 at the back vs 4? Even games we started with 5 defenders and then switched to 4 at half time we looked miles better. Yet we keep playing 5212
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You're right. I much preferred Moyes when he talked about trying to play like City and hoping our results got better. How he hoped for some more luck and how he was at a loss to explain what was going wrong. That was some great stuff from a manager who had us playing plain dire football.

LvG also said

I felt not so happy myself because I was responsible and guilty for the results so I am very happy we won a number of matches in a row
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Seriously, how can you be such a depressive United fan 100% of the time. When was the last time you enjoyed being a supporter. I can't remember ever seeing your name pop up with anything positive to say about us.
 
What I find most striking about LVG is that he is honest, even after winning a game. If United played like turd and won because of 1 moment of brillance, he would tell it like it is. When the team loses, he shoulders the blame as the man in charge.

Moyes, as I can remember, seem to shift blame, to luck, to anything and "hope" things will turn around. At least with LVG you can actually see things changing, won games that United would have probably lost last season - Arsenal away, Totthemham away. All that with no very little experienced Defenders at the back.
 
BaZ87 said:
Martin Odegaard has supposedly chose to sign for Real. So much for all the talk about him wanting to sign for a club that's best for his development and supposedly wanting to be a serious member of the first team squad within a year.
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BaZ87 said:
I can't remember the exact details but I remember reading a few weeks ago that Real offered him something stupid like a 6 or 8 year contract. As always, money talks.

The kid's meant to be a huge talent but I can't see him still being at Madrid in 4 years time.
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Money always talks, fans who believe otherwise are naive. However training with the best players in the world is a good learning experience. If a few youngsters can see Ronaldo train and copy his intensity and commitment they'd be better for it most likely. Also, the top clubs will often give you a good wage AND have a good network of teams with which they do business to loan you out and get you games somewhere better than you might otherwise end up.

Say for example none of the actually top clubs would give someone so young many/any games for a while, meaning he's looking for a distinctly less good team, many won't be able to afford him, most will offer a meh wage, certainly in comparison to Real. If real buy him, give him a good wage, they can also offer him on loan to say a Sociedad/Valencia/Villareal but say hey, his wages are free as long as he plays 40% of the games this season.

A move such as that is likely best case for the player, get to spend some time with Real, learning how to be a part of a big club, being around players like Ronaldo, having some mentors who are the best players in the world, the media advice and support of a genuinely top team but also having such a team leverage him into a great loan that makes certain of a good number of starts and can be a loan to a club that plays the right style of football.

Real also have a history of bringing in younger players then selling them on the cheap but with cheap buy back clauses. SO they may turn around and sell him in a year to again a club they think he'd grow well at, but with an option to buy him back for the same price.


EDIT:- lets compare it to Pogba and how Utd treated him, a kid at an age he needed and deserved games but didn't get them. Why on earth didn't Utd tie him down to a 6 year contract then loan him to clubs to get him certain starts, Pogba wouldn't have gotten frustrated, wouldn't have left and would likely have been playing first team for them for the past 18 months. They could have loaned him to Juve, he could have played the year, come back and been ready to start for Utd. Utd did everything absolutely wrong with how they managed Pogba. There is nothing wrong with going to a top team but a top team who know how to loan out and manager their talent so as not to make them leave and to get them the games they need.

I'd put money on this kid either being so good he stays and gets games or being loaned out to a solid team where he'll get games, somewhere relatively local where they can keep an eye on him and have him train with them from time to time.
 
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Various places reporting that Man Utd have put in a bid for Ron Vlaar. He'll fit in well with their other injury-prone central defenders of average quality.
 
Dm, if his genuine intentions were to join a club best for his development and chances of first team football then you're never convincing me that Real makes sense.

There are plenty of clubs and coaches with far better reputations of developing players and more importantly giving them a chance too. Real historically just sign star players, particularly attacking players and he's highly unlikely to change that and get a chance instead.

As for the loaning out argument, maybe that could work if he and his father weren't talking about and expecting him to be playing first team football at the highest level within a year. That's not happening at Real and I can't see any top level club taking him on loan.
 
Celtic have the boss who made Odegaard so he should sign for Celtic really. He'd at least get a game for us as he's no doubt better than what we have. :D

Why aren't Man Utd in for van Dijk? Better than all their defenders combined and hasn't missed a game for Celtic through injury at all that I can remember.
 
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