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Wow, I really thought LTT had a chance at redemption there, and instead Linus posted that absolutely childish nothing sandwich of a response, and GN rightly called him out again over the response to the initial callout.

I've been watching LTT for about a decade, and I've only been watching GN for a few weeks, but it's clear Steve is firmly in the right on this one.

Talk about opening my eyes.
 
I used to watch some of the early LTT videos years ago which were informative, then fell out of favour with them. These days it's HUB & GN for product reviews & anaylsis.
LTT these days seem to be a cross between the dross of Top Gear morphed into (H-M-C vintage) and QVC

As for the Billet Labs monoblock disaster, sure you / your company has made a mistake, fess up, get in contact put it right; basic CS 101. You don't double down, wait for bad press, then treble down again, unless you've narcisstic or arrogant personality traits.
 
Lyle44 said:
I used to watch some of the early LTT videos years ago which were informative, then fell out of favour with them. These days it's HUB & GN for product reviews & anaylsis.
LTT these days seem to be a cross between the dross of Top Gear morphed into (H-M-C vintage) and QVC

As for the Billet Labs monoblock disaster, sure you / your company has made a mistake, fess up, get in contact put it right; basic CS 101. You don't double down, wait for bad press, then treble down again, unless you've narcisstic or arrogant personality traits.
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I'm not the only 1 to say it but Linus, And a few others in the tech tuber space, Is the classic "geek from school who got power" he thinks he's untouchable so behaves like he's untouchable... that's a disaster waiting to happen.
 
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Dicehunter said:
I'm not the only 1 to say it but Linus, And a few others in the tech tuber space, Is the classic "geek from school who got power" he thinks he's untouchable so behaves like he's untouchable... that's a disaster waiting to happen.
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The increasing flippancy and slap-dash approach over the last few years from Linus does give the impression of thinking he is untouchable.

Steve (GN) can come over a bit insufferable at times but overall I like his content, but he does skirt a bit close sometimes to calling people out on stuff where his own house isn't quite in order (that isn't to say he has to be perfect before calling someone out).
 
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Rroff said:
The increasing flippancy and slap-dash approach over the last few years from Linus does give the impression of thinking he is untouchable.

Steve (GN) can come over a bit insufferable at times but overall I like his content, but he does skirt a bit close sometimes to calling people out on stuff where his own house isn't quite in order (that isn't to say he has to be perfect before calling someone out).
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In all honesty I'm not too keen on most tech tubers, Only one I genuinely like as a person is Tom from OC3D as he does videos like a normal bloke explaining something while having a cuppa, Genuinely refreshing.
 
Dicehunter said:
In all honesty I'm not too keen on most tech tubers, Only one I genuinely like as a person is Tom from OC3D as he does videos like a normal bloke explaining something while having a cuppa, Genuinely refreshing.
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See I really gave up on OC3D and Tom because the amount of mistakes and inability to discuss things civilly. He got called out for a big mistake going back almost a decade and just started banning people on forum and that because they didn't agree with his conclusion. That stopped me watching there. Chatting to others and they have said a lot of content has still been inaccurate at times and just general waffle making videos 45mins that have 15mins of content.
 
Curlyriff said:
See I really gave up on OC3D and Tom because the amount of mistakes and inability to discuss things civilly. He got called out for a big mistake going back almost a decade and just started banning people on forum and that because they didn't agree with his conclusion. That stopped me watching there. Chatting to others and they have said a lot of content has still been inaccurate at times and just general waffle making videos 45mins that have 15mins of content.
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Guess I'm quite out of touch then, All tech tubers suck ! :D
 
Curlyriff said:
See I really gave up on OC3D and Tom because the amount of mistakes and inability to discuss things civilly. He got called out for a big mistake going back almost a decade and just started banning people on forum and that because they didn't agree with his conclusion. That stopped me watching there. Chatting to others and they have said a lot of content has still been inaccurate at times and just general waffle making videos 45mins that have 15mins of content.
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You just described a gamers Nexus video here
 
I noticed LTT didn’t upload yesterday, must be the first time in years. They really must be feeling the burn.

That said, in terms of YouTube drama, this is really a bit of a nothing burger but given the scale of the backlash, it’s probably going to hurt for a while.

I say it’s a nothing burger because on the scale of making basic errors in YouTube videos which frankly very few people actually study the substance of in any great detail and say uploading a video of finding dead bodies in a Forrest in Japan, it’s really quite minor.

At the end of the day, does anyone actually study the few data points that LTT put out and make purchasing decisions based on it? They only tend to review a few GPUs/CPU which you could have written without seeing the product given how predictable (and frankly boring) tech is these days. The rest of their content is just tech bros messing around because that’s what sells. The top gear analogy is a really good one.

The short circuit mouse stickers however is a pretty fatal mistake. That video should have been pulled and a tail between your legs replacement put up. They are not wrong to point out that the stickers are not obvious and customers may also miss them but that should be a talking point of the unboxing and not the substance of the video because you tested it with the stickers still on. That was stupid.
 
Curlyriff said:
See I really gave up on OC3D and Tom because the amount of mistakes and inability to discuss things civilly. He got called out for a big mistake going back almost a decade and just started banning people on forum and that because they didn't agree with his conclusion. That stopped me watching there. Chatting to others and they have said a lot of content has still been inaccurate at times and just general waffle making videos 45mins that have 15mins of content.
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Mkhd is also worth watching. His really good and humble
 
Don't think it's anything new that LTT is scuffed. Out of all the channels I might look at on a tech launch, LTT is going to be one of the last and it's more likely to be for some amusement factor than an idea that he's got better information or insight.

The bit that is new is that it's a surprise to LTT to be told how scuffed they are. Top Gear has been name dropped as a comparison a few times, difference is awareness.
 
Armageus said:
Pretty much - I'd rather spend 3 minutes reading a review than having to watch any sort of video
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I miss the days of going into a local news agent and picking up a thick copy of either PCGamer or CustomPC with good reviews, No writers injecting their personal politics and news stories of games and hardware.
 
jonneymendoza said:
Mkhd is also worth watching. His really good and humble
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Marquess is fine but he is not infallible and makes errors fairly regularly, particularly when they get out of their lane of smartphones, cameras, apple stuff and mainstream consumer tech.

I also wouldn’t describe him as humble, he just does a pretty good job of hiding his wealth from his content.

He recently reviewed his own $100,000 solar roof and it was littered with errors. They often discuss EVs on their podcast and that discussion is often ill informed.

In the $100,000 solar roof video he actually defended the use of 54,000 kWh of electricity a year. This was one of the errors, we think it was double counting energy use in the data. For context a typical U.K. household uses 3600kwh a year). The point is that he had no concept of how much energy that actually is, particularly when he said he used gas for heating and appliances, including the tumble drier (common in the US).

The sponsored 8k nvidia video (3090 launch) was partially bad and I’ve noticed they have stayed out of gaming and PC hardware content since.

The point is, all of them make mistakes, they are ultimately just enthusiasts like the rest of us and that we shouldn’t take their views as gospel.
 
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