#MeToo - is it just different for men and women?

And some more lack of sense:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-42633481

Michael Douglas is being accused of things such as "speaking raunchily" in a private phone call to a friend which someone else overheard. 32 years ago. So obviously his life must be ruined for justice.

The particular lack of sense here is his response - he supports the idea while opposing its application to him personally:

"I support the #metoo movement with all my heart. I have always supported women, along the way."
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"Being accused, without a chance [to defend yourself] in court. To not even really have the information in front of you, to be able to argue or defend yourself. There is no due process, no chance of seeing evidence in front of me from my accuser. It worries me."
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That's an ugly position for him to take - it's a good thing for other men to be victims, but not him. It's also a foolish position for him to take because he'd have to be downright insane to think that he alone is somehow protected despite being a man.
 
How long before kids report their fathers for the sexual harassment towards their mothers leading up to their own conception? :p
 
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VincentHanna said:
Ummmm, never?
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Forgot the :p What I should have said on the lighter side is I wonder if a lot of the shouty 3WF mob realise how their parents met.

That open letter is interesting though. Will people will become more worried about even approaching others for fear of being labelled a creep/perv and will that just divide the sexes further down the line?
 
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Already has I think. There are quite a lot of men just shunning women now because they don't want to deal with this nonsense, or risk being accused of something 20 years later. To the point where in places there's a noticeable shortage of available men for the single women.
 
Nasher said:
Already has I think. There are quite a lot of men just shunning women now because they don't want to deal with this nonsense, or risk being accused of something 20 years later. To the point where in places there's a noticeable shortage of available men for the single women.
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Quite a lot? I am sure some are but not in any significant numbers.
 
That's ridiculous. I wouldn't kiss a "trans women" either. Deep down they are still a man and I'm not in to men. That's my preference and IDK what the current P.C rules say.
 
I saw something on twitter recently where people were saying men shouldn't initiate a hug in the workplace with a woman, its only acceptable for the woman to initiate.
 
G-MAN2004 said:
https://www.bet.com/music/2018/01/08/ginuwine-big-brother-celebrity-trans-woman-twitter-debate.html

Sexual harrassment doesn't seem to count if the victim is male...
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yeah, I mean that trans would otherwise be a 50-something year old man... imagine if it were a 50-something yr old man and a young woman in her 20s using that logic:

"you like men therefore you'd date me" [grabs and tries to kiss]

there are some other mental issues there aside from the gender related ones if the trans thinks that is an acceptable move just because the guy likes women
 
Nasher said:
There are quite a lot of men just shunning women now because they don't want to deal with this nonsense, or risk being accused of something 20 years later. To the point where in places there's a noticeable shortage of available men for the single women.
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I don't know, that seems like quite a fringe idea among hard core male rights activists. The vast majority of women aren't radical feminists and if you're a straight man then shunning women is very much into cutting off your nose to spite your face territory.

I do wonder if the sort of 4chan/reddit mentality does hold some truth - the ideas seem to be that in their 20s lots of women will aim to go for the top percentiles of men... and when not in a relationship plenty of those men will entertain a broad range of women for casual sex. When they get to their 30s the biological clock starts ticking and some women might retain unrealistic expectations from their 20s, the sort of guy they wanted in their 20s can, in his 30s, still date women in their 20s which presumably leads some women to think they're "settling" for less. Supposedly for others they deliberately want to settle in their 30s with the stable "beta" male with a good job once they've been ridden by lots of "alpha" "chad" types in their 20s...

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TallPaul1878 said:
Twitter. Yea, that's the problem right there.:D:D:D
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Well twitter is just a collection of people from all walks of life. Its an eye opener to me that people actually think this way as a hug has always been just an innocent thing to me, not something that could be considered sexual harassment if done by a male. Its probably a small minority that think this way, but the fact anyone does is mind boggling.

https://twitter.com/AudreyPorne/status/949566761661227008

One of the comments "Thought a lot about this because of #MeToo revelations of "less serious" forms of harassment." It's not about sex. It's about power. When a male co-worker "hugs" a female co-worker, unsolicited, its a statement that he has power over her"
 
Angilion said:
That's an ugly position for him to take - it's a good thing for other men to be victims, but not him. It's also a foolish position for him to take because he'd have to be downright insane to think that he alone is somehow protected despite being a man.
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I think it's a sensible statement to make. He supports the intentions of the #MeToo movement (encouraging more victims of sexual harassment to come forward), but not the methods in which it's being applied (trial by social media).

G-MAN2004 said:
https://www.bet.com/music/2018/01/08/ginuwine-big-brother-celebrity-trans-woman-twitter-debate.html

Sexual harrassment doesn't seem to count if the victim is male...
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Despite the article stating people supporting him and saying it was harassment? :confused:
 
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