#MeToo - is it just different for men and women?
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Shows her integrity
would be a hugley risky thing to try.
for one you havr to find a person who was a lone and can be proved to have been alone with your target in private at specific times and dates.
then you have to approach that person and hope to **** they dont say no and out you, as once they do the whole plan is scuppered and the target is going to soar against you as the victim.
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Actually they didn't: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/45477764
But the WTA did, many media outlets did and she's been given a free platform to portray herself as the hero-victim and demand preferential treatment for women.
Can you provide examples of high profile male tennis players recently who have called the umpire a liar and a thief and smashed rackets on court and demanded the umpire apologise for applying the rules and told the umpire they wouldn't be allowed on their court again...and then been portrayed as a hero-victim fighting for men to have equality, as standing up for strong men?
One example?
One example from any point in time, not just recently?
No?
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I don't really have a dog in this fight, I don't watch tennis and so have nothing useful to add.
I was just pointing out that it's not all gone Serena's way.
I was just pointing out that it's not all gone Serena's way.
sorry - yes - indeed , you are right.
The damage is somewhat done if the WTA and the ITF do not come to a consensus - the remit of #metoo and the narratives power just grows.
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I have been thinking the same, when has a top 4 male player in this century been allowed to make such statements?
In fact, this century has anyone branded a ref a liar and a cheat on a court at all?
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Lol...
This is why I struggle to take any of these people seriously...the stuff they preach about then you hear stories like that.
Just lmao........ lmao lmao lmao.........
You shouldn't struggle to take them seriously because they have power. Power is the only thing that matters in politics. Nothing else matters except in the context of how it affects how much power a person has. Other authoritarian ideologies have also used irrational prejudice to gain power and cause harm. It's a common technique that has been used for at least all of recorded history because it works. The target groups vary - jews, men, protestants, catholics, "black" people, etc - but the basic idea is the same and it works. It's ridiculous in itself, especially with the blatant hypocrisy, lying and double standards that usually come with it, but the degree of harm it causes means that it's not at all ridiculous in the real world. In abstract, it's ridiculous. In application, it's very dangerous.
At a miniscule cost to herself, well under 1% of the money she was paid for that game alone, she has gained a lot of power and status and done a lot to promote sexism. So yeah, it has pretty much gone all her way.
Need to become increasingly sceptical about news sources too, comment I made in tesla thread
Guardian has similar reputation, and just scanning their asia argento article
https://www.theguardian.com/film/20...aying-off-actor-metoo-weinstein-jimmy-bennett
an abdication of responsibility for content.
...maybe Serena (or is that her sister) should just retire to her Tempur mattress
Guardian has similar reputation, and just scanning their asia argento article
https://www.theguardian.com/film/20...aying-off-actor-metoo-weinstein-jimmy-bennett
they just repeat other articles - so click-bait - no independant verification ?
an abdication of responsibility for content.
...maybe Serena (or is that her sister) should just retire to her Tempur mattress
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Is Williams' father still giving the Black Power salutes at her matches?
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I thought Serena overstated her case and took away all the limeight from the Osaka. I didn't actually realise though the chair umpire took a whole game of her as punishment for coaching which led to her having a meltdown.
Rules are rules but they should be consistently enforced so I can understand why Serena felt victimised but I don't see this as sexist just poor umpiring.
Rules are rules but they should be consistently enforced so I can understand why Serena felt victimised but I don't see this as sexist just poor umpiring.
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My understanding is that she was deducted a point for the coaching, it was the resultant verbal abuse that cost her a game.
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The thing is, she was penalized for three things:
On court coaching warning
Racket violation
Arguing with the umpire
Now the on court coaching was harsh but fair enough. The racket violation is inconsistently given in every day games and there is some truth that men generally are more spirited on the court. I found it very odd it was given in a grand slam final as well as the game deduction. Yes she behaved poorly but the umpiring was unusually harsh and took away more from Tennis than added. Carlos Ramon has a habit of being a stickler for the rules, if inconsistent at times and a few top players have commented that he goes on power trips and likes to use his umpiring to steal the show.
Serenas behaviour was childish and understandable, while Carlos could have umpired much better and not ended a grand-slam final early. The umpiring took away from Osaka, Williams, the tennis fans and the sport in general.
if you had not seen mark knights cartoon .. and, that which he similarly did for kyrgios ... trump
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/v...k=7bed1772fe8ccb13ef065ddd21a76fba-1536666623
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/v...k=7bed1772fe8ccb13ef065ddd21a76fba-1536666623