#MeToo - is it just different for men and women?

[GGizmo]

He shouldn't have done it.

Who is he to say he refuses to resign? What an attitude.

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[Dis86]

He shouldn't have done it.

Who is he to say he refuses to resign? What an attitude.

FIFA suspends Spain's federation boss Rubiales over World Cup kiss | DW News

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What do you mean who is he to say he refuses to resign? Do you even know what the word means?

 

[StriderX]

I get that he's in self-preservation mode but christ the sheer arrogance to continue to pretend it was ok to intimately kiss a subordinate without permission and ruined the whole occasion for said person at the peak of their excitement.

What a ****.

 

[Colonel_Klinck]

The vinnie Jones one on gazza is clearly sexual assault.

Unless grabbing a man's testicles is not?

Yes it could easily be charged as that today. It was done to distract, intimidate and injure though.

 

[Silly Goose On The Loose]

I get that he's in self-preservation mode but christ the sheer arrogance to continue to pretend it was ok to intimately kiss a subordinate without permission and ruined the whole occasion for said person at the peak of their excitement.

What a ****.

Well you can see why he's trying it, look at this thread for people saying it is fine.

 

[Silly Goose On The Loose]

So sheshould be sacked for hugging him and lifting him up and he should be sacked for responding with a kiss.

I wonder if both outcomes will occur.

Hug <> sexual harassment.

 

[Silly Goose On The Loose]

The vinnie Jones one on gazza is clearly sexual assault.

Unless grabbing a man's testicles is not?

Yes it is. Why do you think this is a big win?

 

[Silly Goose On The Loose]

You're comparing celebrating winning the world cup to work colleagues, would you want a woman fired for kissing you on the lips on New Years Eve for 0.4 seconds? That's the closest comparison I can think of. You're comparing it to a day in the office and removing the context because you literally have to make it sound worse than it was, why do you do that?

Not surprised to see you posting this and the usual suspects liking it. You're literally advocating sexual harassment, do you think smacking a girl's bum or giving it a cheeky pinch at work is okay too?

 

[Dis86]

Yes it could easily be charged as that today. It was done to distract, intimidate and injure though.

So you're admitting that that contact wasn't sexual yet are determined that this contact is?

 

[Silly Goose On The Loose]

So you're admitting that that contact wasn't sexual yet are determined that this contact is?

Kissing a person on the lips without consent would be sexual harassment. Go out to the street now and try it.

 

[Dis86]

Kissing a person on the lips without consent would be sexual harassment. Go out to the street now and try it.

No it wouldn't. Sexual harassment has to have a proven sexual motive.

 

[Silly Goose On The Loose]

No it wouldn't. Sexual harassment has to have a proven sexual motive.

“Sexual harassment is a type of harassmentinvolving the use of explicit or implicit sexual overtones, including the unwelcome and inappropriate promises of rewards in exchange for sexual favors. Sexual harassment can either be physical or verbal,maybe even both.”

 

[Dis86]

“Sexual harassment is a type of harassmentinvolving the use of explicit or implicit sexual overtones, including the unwelcome and inappropriate promises of rewards in exchange for sexual favors. Sexual harassment can either be physical or verbal,maybe even both.”

Yes. You've literally just contradicted yourself.

 

[Deleted User 234324]

Hug <> sexual harassment.

A hug can be sexual just like a kiss can be non sexual.

You think your nan giving you a kiss is sexual, or your parents giving you a kiss is sexual? How about a friend, I have plenty of close female friends that would all give a kiss in a non sexual manner.

 

[Silly Goose On The Loose]

A hug can be sexual just like a kiss be non sexual.

You think your nan giving you a kiss is sexual, or your parents giving you a kiss is sexual? How about a friend, I have plenty of close female friends that would all give a kiss in a non sexual manner.

Perhaps I should have been clearer. An unwanted hug can be sexual harassment.

 

[Deleted User 234324]

The only people that don't want a hug are psychotic nut jobs.

 

[Silly Goose On The Loose]

The only people that don't want a hug are psychotic nut jobs.

I’m not sure I’d want a random hug in the street

 

[rp2000]

What does her husband have to say about it all anyway?

Unless I'm mistaken, she is gay.


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[GGizmo]

What do you mean who is he to say he refuses to resign? Do you even know what the word means?

In this context he was being asked to resign.

I take it that he was declaring he's going to make it awkward to get rid of him.

The fact the Spanish team are saying they refuse to play while he's still in charge, a normal person would resign. He shouldn't need to be pushed.

 

[FoxEye]

A hug can be sexual just like a kiss can be non sexual.

You think your nan giving you a kiss is sexual, or your parents giving you a kiss is sexual? How about a friend, I have plenty of close female friends that would all give a kiss in a non sexual manner.

I think part of the problem is that that can't be proven one way or another.

So if one of your friends fell out with you, they could subsequently claim that all of your kisses were of a sexual nature, and that you'd been harassing her all this time.

You'd have a hell of a time proving it wasn't (sexual).