Caporegime
You're allocating a sexual motive to an action by default that can easily have non-sexual aspect..
Or did grandma used to slip you some tongue?
#MeToo - is it just different for men and women?
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You're allocating a sexual motive to an action by default that can easily have non-sexual aspect..
Or did grandma used to slip you some tongue?
Soldato
No the person being kissed in this case has added the sexual aspect, she felt it was inappropriate and in no way consensual, the guy then lied and said she had said he could kiss her. Clearly he's a lying scum bag.
It wasn't me who tried to compare this to a granny kissing a child, it was a ridiculous comparison.
Soldato
Apparently not. When you are a man and are very happy you can just kiss women on the lips and its fine, they should just take it and then keep their lips shut about it.
Why go to the extreme? Most people seem to be saying he made a mistake and shouldn't have done it. A sensible way to deal with it would be to apologise, and don't do it again. In the video he's clearly celebrating and kisses her on the cheek, then on the lips. I wouldn't expect her to say anything at that point (it's not easy for everyone when the focus is on you) but later, a simple "yeah it was inappropriate, don't do it again " would have been one way to handle.
Who said or implied "they should just take it and then keep their lips shut about it"...?
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Caporegime
How do you know she's telling the truth and he isn't? Again you're making things up that aren't proven to suit your narrative.
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It is not just her that is making allegations.
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Exactly. If you walked up to a random woman and kissed her on the lips I expect you would get a slap.
Again, no one has said that and it's irrelevant. He didn't just grab some random woman and kiss her on the lips.
I can't imagine with how brief whatever the discourse was between them that consent could ever conceivably be considered to be discussed... not that it matters because only they know what was said assuming they can even remember it with all the commotion.
The moment she said it was inappropriate he should have acknowledged it and apologised, instead he's went off to dig a deeper hole as usual.
Probably asked if a peck was OK, then got carried away leaving her a bit shocked. Inappropriate, but not punishable by death, unless this happened in Afghanistan.
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But that is EXACTLY what he did.
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Only if it was a woman initiating it. Or it was man on man.
But should that country have been brought in as Im fairly sure you can be executed for listening to music.
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Next year the Taliban are going to completely ban women.
Today it's reported that they've banned them from a national park for being too female.
Lovely place.
No, I don't think you can. But perhaps they don't like particular types of music more than others.
Point was more about overreacting. Yes it was inappropriate, but seems a bit much - based on this instance - the way it's been handled.
Also interesting that the point of this thread was about essentially double standards and when the example of Gazza was given it was somewhat dismissed...
Yet... it never happens, funny how it only happens outside of marriage...
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Im fairly sure if they werent muslims they would be welcomed here with open arms like a recent Tory MP did.
Tory MP Tobias Ellwood deletes video ‘lauding’ Taliban in Afghanistan
The Commons Defence Committee chairman faced criticism from fellow Conservatives over the clip.www.standard.co.uk
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If you cant see the difference between what happened on the field between two players and what happened when the head of their FA planted a kiss on a female player after the match I cant help you.