#MeToo - is it just different for men and women?

He called her a liar, he said it was consensual when she said it wasn't and claimed he did nothing wrong. That doesn't sound reasonable to me, but then I don't go around kissing women on the lips unless I am damned sure it is something she wants to happen, that is just me though.

He said the consent was the part where she lifted him up off the ground, she was clearly also overjoyed with emotion, but she said that part didn't even happen despite there being video evidence? She is literally lying lol
 
Said this before but given the occasion and how short their time together was he probably said "kiss?", she said yes so he kissed her on the cheek, got carried away and then kissed her on the lips.
 
None of those are the definition of a law. Would you like me to show you where you're wrong? It's easy.


Legislation - Law.

Sexual assault

(1)A person (A) commits an offence if—

(a)he intentionally touches another person (B),

(b)the touching is sexual,

(c)B does not consent to the touching, and

(d)A does not reasonably believe that B consents.



As I've repeated to you multiple times, one of the requirements for sexual assault is that the touching is sexual. There is nothing in the legislation of sexual assault that states a kiss on the lips is automatically sexual.

Or we can go with the Spanish definition?


Sexual Assault

Under Article 178 of the Penal Code a person shall be guilty of a sexual assault when that person offends against the sexual freedom of another person, using violence or intimidation. When found guilty a person shall be punished for sexual assault with a sentence of imprisonment from one to five years.

Violence and intimidation correspond with each other as they both contain elements of coercion, injury and threats. It is clear that these elements are effective and sufficent to overcome the will of the victim. It is necessary that but for the violence and intimidation caused by the accused the victim´s will would not have been overcome. The victim´s actions must be involuntary. The intimidation does not necessarily have to be directed at the victim, it can be indirect. For example, the assaulter could threaten to hurt the victim´s family unless the victim complies.


Did he use violence or intimidation?

You do realise that lips can be used for touching right? Kissing is the touching of lips. So all the criteria are met. And he used force, he grabbed her face and kissed her on the lips.
 
can't, but help, thinking of this - classic abuse
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Said this before but given the occasion and how short their time together was he probably said "kiss?", she said yes so he kissed her on the cheek, got carried away and then kissed her on the lips.

Did he say that or are you just guessing to fit with his story? How many times in celebration where you have hugged a woman have you said "kiss?"
 
People ignored you Chris because its irrelevant to what happened. Its just you trolling a thread again.

It's very relevant, there's plenty of evidence lesbians are quite often men haters, and if she's of that mindset she may well be milking an innoccuos kiss in the heat of the celebration to suit an agenda.

Just because someone has a question or an answer you don't like the sound of doesn't mean they are trolling. I suspect this is why you hate Musk so much, and are so very active in the Twitter thread, he allows questions and answers on X you'd rather see redacted.
 
No, clearly saying it's your mental victim agenda, nothing to do with her mental state.

Come on, seriously?

Im really starting to think he can't actually read English properly. Either that or he's so blinded by his bias he's reading incredibly selectively and inserting what he wants to see.
 
Ah so she is just a mental victim with an agenda. Ok.

No, clearly saying it's your mental victim agenda, nothing to do with her mental state.

Come on, seriously?
Did he say that or are you just guessing to fit with his story? How many times in celebration where you have hugged a woman have you said "kiss?"

I did say probably. But you're picking one side over another for what reason? Because women are always the victims? Are you guessing she didn't consent because she said she didn't and it fits with your view of things?
 
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No, clearly saying it's your mental victim agenda, nothing to do with her mental state.

Come on, seriously?


I did say probably. But you're picking one side over another for what reason? Because women are always the victims? Are you guessing she didn't consent because she said she didn't and it fits with your view of things?
Women do tend to be victimised for much of their life and from a very early age, this is in a 'civilised' country. In countries still treating women as property they're victimised from birth.
 
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