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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080Ti to be "available" on June 3rd, RTX 3070Ti on June 10th

Frostie1 said:
i'm stuck on a 970 too, tried every gen since to get a new card, it's like fishing in a puddle.
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Sorry but I can't believe that you couldn't have managed to buy a pascal, Turing, Vega or 5000 series card if you had tried. For instance, not only have I seen pascal and AMD previous gen cards on sale for months previously, but saw some discounted at EOL.
 
RipGroove said:
Price and availability aside, if you had to pick one, 3080ti or 3090? (For gaming)
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If money was no object, 3090 obviously (better cooler, more mem than 3080ti). If money is a concern but you still have enough disposable then 3080ti. If value is a concern, then plain 3080.
 
Frostie1 said:
i'm stuck on a 970 too, tried every gen since to get a new card, it's like fishing in a puddle.
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ASMB said:
Sorry but I can't believe that you couldn't have managed to buy a pascal, Turing, Vega or 5000 series card if you had tried. For instance, not only have I seen pascal and AMD previous gen cards on sale for months previously, but saw some discounted at EOL.
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Like you I don't believe he tried to get previous gen cards... There were no shortages of them.

Probably one of the people who sold their card before the 30 series released and then hasn't managed to get a 30 series so is stuck on the 'temp' card they chose :rolleyes:
 
ScottiB said:
Bots! what do you want us to do? we can't sit on the stock forever, we can't exactly sell them all over the phone and we can't do forum drops on so many different lines, that would take days to set up.
Rock, meet Hard Place! I'm more sick of this situation than you, I guarantee it!
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Please implement a system similar to the competitor who sells FE models - captcha leading to blacklist that limits billing addresses to one or two GPUs. The situation with scalpers is not going anywhere, just look at the PS5 fiasco. So be it the current 30 series or the next 40 series RTX, this stuff is much-much needed. Maybe you could discuss this with Nvidia reps so that a general UK-wide solution could also be devised.
 
Borsch said:
Please implement a system similar to the competitor who sells FE models - captcha leading to blacklist that limits billing addresses to one or two GPUs. The situation with scalpers is not going anywhere, just look at the PS5 fiasco. So be it the current 30 series or the next 40 series RTX, this stuff is much-much needed. Maybe you could discuss this with Nvidia reps so that a general UK-wide solution could also be devised.
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Billing address is easily worked around.

Please stop making suggestions on how to fix this as already requested by OCUK staff.
 
Borsch said:
Please implement a system similar to the competitor who sells FE models - captcha leading to blacklist that limits billing addresses to one or two GPUs. The situation with scalpers is not going anywhere, just look at the PS5 fiasco. So be it the current 30 series or the next 40 series RTX, this stuff is much-much needed. Maybe you could discuss this with Nvidia reps so that a general UK-wide solution could also be devised.
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I'm 100% sure nearly all of said stores stock went to bots.
 
Borsch said:
I beg to differ, see the FE owners thread ;) Even theoretically, bots cant solve captchas AND they cant circumvent the blacklist with billing addresses.
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The billing address block is easily bypassed. Even as somebody who's made absolutely no effort to get into scalping, I have at least another four addresses where I could get a FE delivered between work and family members who'd help out, along with new payment cards to use for the transaction. People on a Discord server I frequent have certainly been bragging about how many cards they've got from that source, and there are always a bunch of FEs on Ebay after a drop, usually from seasoned scalpers if you check their other items. To be clear, I'm not saying that I don't appreciate the effort being put in to stop it happening, but the reality is that no system is foolproof. The determined will find a way around any check when there's so much money to be made.
 
ScottiB said:
It hasn't been like that. There was the attempt to make a new forum section with lighter access requirements, that has so far failed and that was most of the "3 months". It was only the 3080 Ti launch when we said 'hopefully next week' but as of, I think, yesterday, Gibbo has had to concede that it could be a few weeks, even a month, before we are ready to try again.

We're pretty set that the next attempt to get cards into the hands of gamers will be focused on those who are already in our back order queues. Seems the fairest thing to do.
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Just my luck I canceled out of the queue a couple of months ago. I was in the Zotac 3080 Amp Extreme queue for 6 months with zero cards being shipped, and still to this day none have shipped.

:(
 
Aretak said:
The billing address block is easily bypassed. Even as somebody who's made absolutely no effort to get into scalping, I have at least another four addresses where I could get a FE delivered between work and family members who'd help out, along with new payment cards to use for the transaction.
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So you are already limited to four cards. If cards were shipped to billing addresses only then you'd need to hassle your friends for their card details - a further limitation. Atm a bot can buy hundreds of cards and have them shipped to a single address.
 
Aretak said:
The billing address block is easily bypassed. Even as somebody who's made absolutely no effort to get into scalping, I have at least another four addresses where I could get a FE delivered between work and family members who'd help out, along with new payment cards to use for the transaction. People on a Discord server I frequent have certainly been bragging about how many cards they've got from that source, and there are always a bunch of FEs on Ebay after a drop, usually from seasoned scalpers if you check their other items. To be clear, I'm not saying that I don't appreciate the effort being put in to stop it happening, but the reality is that no system is foolproof. The determined will find a way around any check when there's so much money to be made.
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Thats not half as easy as your making out.
The billing address needs to be 'verifiable' by the card check at checkout. Things like Revolute or other virtual cards do not work. Lead to a cancelled order at best.
So that means you either need all these people to share there own card details with you, or register cards yourself.
Now maybe your freinds/family are happy to do that. But I dont think most would be.

Further, you need to use a different IP for each order. And not a commercial VPN IP.
Sure you might have a few mobiles around to use 4G, or can reset your router and hope for a new IP.
But that is all extra hurdles.

Yes there are some who will get around this.... but it works better than doing nothing.

And yea... just look at the owners threads. Look how many of the cards are FE. It suggests those are getting into genuine users hands at a better rate than AIBs. ((also points to there just being more FEs around maybe...)
 
RipGroove said:
So you believe that bots are being stopped by these measures?
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Some are for sure.

People keep underestimating how much legit "human" buyers are interested. And with widespread use of alert servers, tons of people can get to the these sites instantly.
IF they already logged into the retailer, they can check out in seconds too.
 
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