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*** Official Ryzen Owners Thread ***

I would advice against using LLC on the CH6 board. I cannot speak to the others but the stilt over at oc.net has posted that LLC gives an overshoot of voltage after coming off a high load.
This cannot be seen on CPUz or the likes or even a multi meter but rather an oscilloscope. What you think could be 1.45v could very well be spiking into the 1.5v without you even seeing it.

The advice is to run a higher idle voltage to compensate for droop and ignore LLC. Or if for whatever reason you need to use it then don't go above level 2.
 
gavinh87 said:
Thats the only way I cured mine mate. Took me a while and I never found the problem although I suspect it was AIsuite as I never reinstalled that. Or a corruption on the windows install :/
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Well, clean install and not one lock up during bit pattern test.

It takes much, much longer to run through a test though.

So, not sure if it not locking up is because something installed was causing it, or because it's running so much slower it doesn't run fast enough for the lock to happen.

And now.... Need to install each program one by one, testing after each one :(

Be interesting to see if using ProcODT 53 and this reinstall will cure the locks. If do, I imagine I will need to restart all over again on overclocking
 
eyetrip said:
Well, clean install and not one lock up during bit pattern test.

It takes much, much longer to run through a test though.

So, not sure if it not locking up is because something installed was causing it, or because it's running so much slower it doesn't run fast enough for the lock to happen.

And now.... Need to install each program one by one, testing after each one :(

Be interesting to see if using ProcODT 53 and this reinstall will cure the locks. If do, I imagine I will need to restart all over again on overclocking
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eyetrip said:
Well, clean install and not one lock up during bit pattern test.

It takes much, much longer to run through a test though.

So, not sure if it not locking up is because something installed was causing it, or because it's running so much slower it doesn't run fast enough for the lock to happen.

And now.... Need to install each program one by one, testing after each one :(

Be interesting to see if using ProcODT 53 and this reinstall will cure the locks. If do, I imagine I will need to restart all over again on overclocking
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I didn't need to do any changes to my overclocks, I did not touch the bios at all as I knew this was a software problem.
 
I did read that procODT is one to be careful about maximums and that 40-60 was safe but more was at your own risk. I think the AMD rep on one of the videos was quoted as saying 80 was LN2 territory.
 
SupraWez said:
Sounds similar to mine, I run 1.35v in the BIOS but also not played with LLC yet, my temps are 65c on 240mm AIO under Realbench testing.
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Sounds like you might have a better chip than me. Unless your vdroop is less exaggerated. Can you get 4ghz? I went to 1.45v BIOS but no luck.

My temps are about 56 in realbench but prime small FFT is a lot high at 62-63. Pretty relaxed fan curve too, really happy with the 360mm AIO!
 
gavinh87 said:
So an update is causing this???
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Maybe not.

Rebooted, reset some bios options - changing as little as possible, and is now not pausing again.

Strange as between it running fine and locking, I had not changed anything in bios.

Then tried out occt quickly, and that only paused briefly once ram was full and it started, then it was smooth.

That was cpu stock and ram at 3066.

Am now going to stress test system using tpu memtest and occt before I do anything else and find what's stable outside of some apparent software issue.

The locking up was quite severe and am sure has been the root cause of my issues.

So it seems a combo of ProcODT setting and some piece of software?

Oh, I did install chipset drivers minus Ryzen Power plan. Tpu still smooth with that.
 
So, 3.95ghz and 3066 ram, tpu smooth and occt just had a couple of split second pauses some minutes in, but otherwise smooth.

Will give occt a 3 hour run.

Then tpu overnight. Assuming occt passes.

Another thing I have done is not use llc. Which doesn't seem to have impacted the minimum voltage under load...
 
eyetrip said:
So, 3.95ghz and 3066 ram, tpu smooth and occt just had a couple of split second pauses some minutes in, but otherwise smooth.

Will give occt a 3 hour run.

Then tpu overnight. Assuming occt passes.

Another thing I have done is not use llc. Which doesn't seem to have impacted the minimum voltage under load...
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Yeah the droop is real on this board. However almost zero on the tomahawk..... That said the VRM's on that were very toasty.
I get a couple of pauses under OCCT but only when browsing through folders etc I also get it on my 4770 so thats normal. I used to get lockups of about 15 seconds before i reinstalled.
 
Ste said:
Can you get 4ghz? I went to 1.45v BIOS but no luck.

My temps are about 56 in realbench but prime small FFT is a lot high at 62-63. Pretty relaxed fan curve too, really happy with the 360mm AIO!
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I havent tried 4GHz yet, might give it a go later but its nice and stable at present :)

My Corsair 240 AIO seem to be doing the job OK, I have been looking at the new EK 240G kit which also includes a 1080 GPU block as well as AM4 but would prefer a 360mm option, sadly doesnt seem like they are available yet otherwise I would be tempted.
 
gavinh87 said:
Yeah the droop is real on this board. However almost zero on the tomahawk..... That said the VRM's on that were very toasty.
I get a couple of pauses under OCCT but only when browsing through folders etc I also get it on my 4770 so thats normal. I used to get lockups of about 15 seconds before i reinstalled.
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In my mention of llc, I should have said I have always used 2.

Using none results in same droop.

Only 3 seems to negate it.

But I don't care about a higher voltage at idle/low load.

And yeah, not concerned about occasional hiccup. But the stuttering and freezing was insane. Talking over a minute often enough.
 
eyetrip said:
In my mention of llc, I should have said I have always used 2.

Using none results in same droop.

Only 3 seems to negate it.

But I don't care about a higher voltage at idle/low load.

And yeah, not concerned about occasional hiccup. But the stuttering and freezing was insane. Talking over a minute often enough.
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That does sound worse than mine was. Are you using nvme?
 
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