Ole's sacked, who next?

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Yeah I think it's more likely that is just what they're saying. They're hardly going to say 'nah mate he's **** but we need a week or two to get his replacement sorted'
Would be nice for some honesty like that though! :D Obviously not how it's done, but it would certainly be refreshing!
 
Yeah I think it's more likely that is just what they're saying. They're hardly going to say 'nah mate he's **** but we need a week or two to get his replacement sorted'

Yes I’m sure you’re right, they probably want to see if we can limp a bit closer to the international break too, before doing anything.
 
Thing is if you bring in a new man tomorrow and he loses to Tottenham and City (and Atalanta) which is entirely possible, it could wreck the new manager before he's even got going.

If you let Ole take the L's a new manager could come in with a more winnable set of games and move forward.
 
Thing is if you bring in a new man tomorrow and he loses to Tottenham and City (and Atalanta) which is entirely possible, it could wreck the new manager before he's even got going.

If you let Ole take the L's a new manager could come in with a more winnable set of games and move forward.

Pros and cons to both. If Ole scrapes some points then there is a chance he doesn't go and the **** show rolls on a bit longer. If we keep him for the Atalanta game it could cost us the CL group. I don't think the Tottenham game is anything to be scared of and I would expect any half decent manager to not get absolutely battered by City. I would expect Ole not to get battered by City to be fair. Maybe he might have learned something from the Liverpool game.
 
Cant see Ole surviving past Spurs if we get battered

We won't get battered though. He will play super defensive and try to hit Spurs on the counter. I wouldn't be surprised if we do OK vs Spurs and City with Ole still in charge. That doesn't change the fact he needs to go. Hes a **** manager.
 
Pros and cons to both. If Ole scrapes some points then there is a chance he doesn't go and the **** show rolls on a bit longer. If we keep him for the Atalanta game it could cost us the CL group. I don't think the Tottenham game is anything to be scared of and I would expect any half decent manager to not get absolutely battered by City. I would expect Ole not to get battered by City to be fair. Maybe he might have learned something from the Liverpool game.

He learnt nothing from the leciester game, or Atalanta game which was then replicated against Liverpool.

So yeah great chance he might have learnt since then Haha
 
He learnt nothing from the leciester game, or Atalanta game which was then replicated against Liverpool.

So yeah great chance he might have learnt since then Haha

The only hope he'll have is that be has took notice of the way the media have portrayed and analysed everything after the Liverpool defeat. The escape from Atalanta was papered over by the fact they actually won, and not much was made of the Leicester defeat in comparison to the Liverpool one.

He has to react and surely not with the same tactics he's been using?
 
I honestly believe that Utd tried to press Liverpool at the weekend simply because Ole and the side had been getting stick for not being like City and Liverpool and I can just imagine Ole giving a team talk akin to something you'd hear a football fan say down the pub, "lets get stuck into them, don't give them any time on the ball ....blah blah". There would have been no tactical understanding on what was required to press a team properly, who they were going to press and when - it was just go out there and run about a bit more.

As I was saying:
Sources have said that players were confused by pre-match tactics. Solskjaer is said to have given an instruction to press high on Liverpool but players were unsure of the exact coordination. In training, United do not train much pressing, with an explanation being that the strategy under Solskjaer is for the nearest man to the ball to close down the opponent in possession as the team track back and get into shape.
https://theathletic.com/2912538/202...nfused-and-divided/?source=emp_shared_article

Ole's done. This is one of a number of articles doing the rounds with players briefing against Ole and as soon as that starts it's over. If he makes it beyond the International break I'd be amazed.
 
Indeed, has a manager ever come back from this sort of open revolt from players?

Of course no names are mentioned, but apparently there was a team meeting after the Leicester game and the squad identified Ole as the main issue...

‘Solskjaer asked his team for their thoughts on the issues causing United to leak chances week after week. More than one concluded that the answer was the man posing the question.

:o
 
Well there's nothing wrong with asking players what they think, I'm sure every manager talks to their players in the dressing room about that. If things aren't going right he's 100% correct to have a discussion with the squad, they're humans not automatons. They might be able to spot something happening on the pitch that he can't see from the dugout for example.

It's the players having lost belief in him that is the issue, that means he's done. It's not as toxic as Jose, they clearly still like him but if they're not buying into him as a manager any more then it's over.
 
Well there's nothing wrong with asking players what they think, I'm sure every manager talks to their players in the dressing room about that. If things aren't going right he's 100% correct to have a discussion with the squad, they're humans not automatons. They might be able to spot something happening on the pitch that he can't see from the dugout for example.

That seems a bit naive when we're talking about the manager of the biggest club on the planet. There's a time and a place to ask players what they think can be done better, putting it on them right after the game once it's done and dusted seems a bit suspect.
 
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