I didn't read the whole thread but my point was that freeview is rubbish compared to sky lol.
Shock as completely free service isn't quite up to the same standard as a rather expensive subscription one.
I have Sky (as of recently) but only because I got it cheap, and it just seems like snobbery to be bad-mouthing Freeview when you're getting all those channels for free in the first place, especially considering 10 years ago you only had five.