** Summer Transfer Window 2011/12 Season Rumours/Signings **

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tottenham really have shifted some dead wood

bassong was on the verge of going to qpr but our talks over cahill fell through so he didn't go

hutton and jenas to villa, good for both parties

crouch and palacios to stoke. the price of crouch could rise to £12m!

bentley loaned out to west ham and parker to us for west ham

adebayor on loan, if he impresses then hopefully we will get first refusal

modric stays, despite a £40m bid from chelsea
 
So what tricks of the light are Chelsea going to pull to meet their FFP requirements? I can't see how they could already be losing money with huge wages, spend £70m odd and still hope to meet 40m Euros net loss for the next 3 seasons.
 
sammo62 said:
So what tricks of the light are Chelsea going to pull to meet their FFP requirements? I can't see how they could already be losing money with huge wages, spend £70m odd and still hope to meet 40m Euros net loss for the next 3 seasons.
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It will be utterly pathetic if Chelsea and City are allowed to play in Europe. The rules were designed specifically so that these morons can't play in Europe. Running at hundreds of millions of pounds loss every single year with no concern is just ridiculous and distorting the market massively and ruining competition, how can you compete with people who just completely disregard the world the rest of us exist in. Isn't City's wage bill by itself higher than the club's entire turnover? It would be funny if it wasn't so tragic
 
Team: Chelsea

Players In

Thibaut Courtois: We paid £9m. Young 19 year old Belgian keeper from Genk; hot prospect for sure. Will eventually replace Cech I imagine, but has been sent out on loan to Atheltico Madrid to replace De Gea. He's started in their first game and people are saying that Joel (other Athletico Keeper) won't get a start after Courtois' performance. Exciting :).

Oriol Romeo: We paid £5m. 19 year old holding midfielder from Barcelona; from what I've seen he's very comfortable on the ball, strong and can read the game very well. Barcelona fans were very dissapointed he has left as they saw him as one of their brightest young prospects. Please with this signing, although the 2 year buy-back clause has put a bit of a downer on it.

Ulises Davila: Not sure how much we paid for him. I don't really know much about this guy; 20 year old attacker/winger, is a Mexican under 20 international. Meant to be very pacey, skillful and was touted as one of the players of the tournament at the under-20 world cup. He's gone out on loan to Vitesse so he can get his work permit approved next year.

Romelu Lukaku: Anyone who has played Football Manager will know who this guy is ;). 18 year old Belgian International striker signed from Anderlect for £18m. Strong, quick, good technique - will be an amazing player for Chelsea no doubt.

Juan Mata: We paid £23.5m (unconfirmed). Brilliant signing, exactly what we need! Great technique, vision, pace - can take players on, cross the ball and has brilliant movement on and off the ball. At only 23 this lad has a great future as a Chelsea player.

Rual Meireles: We paid £12m (unconfirmed). Not exactly what we needed in my opinion, clearly a plan B after Spurs were not moving on Modric. From what I saw of him at Liverpool he looks like will make a good squad player and could potentially replace Lampard in the middle if Lampard doesn't pick up his form. Pleased we got someone in the middle and that we didn't get raped on the price (for him and Modric).


Players Out:

Yossi Benayoun: No idea why we loaned him out to Arsenal; AVB obviously doesn't rate him as I thought he was our best player in pre-season. There may be something else going in within Chelsea here, as it doesn't add up. Also annoyed we loaned him to bloody Arsenal! >.<

Patrick Van Aanholt: Loaned him out to Wigan. Pleased with this; I get the feeling he is going to be a top quality left-back in the future and may eventually replace Ashley. He also looked very good in pre-season.

Gaul Katuka: Loaned out to Bolton. Come on Owen Coyle! Sort this lad out please; he had such great potential but hasn't done ANYTHING with it! If he can play every game for Bolton and get's his confidence up he could still end up being a world beater.

There were a bunch of other loan deals for some of our younger players, which is all very good as they will get game time :).

Ones that got away:
This is too depressing to comment on, but yeah.... a certain Belgian winger and a certain central midfielder :(.

Deadweights:

Kalou: Just get out Kalou, please... just get out. He is possibly the most frustrating and useless player to ever put on a Chelsea shirt. Any of you lot want him?


Overall:

Very pleased with the signings we have made this summer. While most of them are not first time starters, they are clearly going to be integrated into Chelsea's more aging squad and could be potential super star players within the next couple of years. We're still desperately missing a playmaker in the middle, but I'm confident we'll strengthen in that position in Janaury and I'm confident with what we have right now, we'll be able to keep up with the two Manchester teams until that time comes.
 
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Manchester United just announced a £110.9m pre-tax profit. Jesus. Considering they had loss £108.9m in 2009-2010 which included the transfer of Ronaldo, that is one hell of a turn around. DHL accounts for £40m, some Asian mobile company has paid a bit as well and transfer wise it is a net spend this season. I presume that the removal of those god awful PIK loans has helped with interest payments massively.

It is a £200m turnaround in a year which I am struggling to add up.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14741758
 
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reefoid said:
DM - so you criticise RVP because we don't win all the games he scores in? Seems like some kind of perverse logic. Would you criticise the defence if they kept a clean sheet but the forwards failed to score a goal?
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Jesus christ people really don't "get it". I'm not criticising RVP at all, my dads an accountant........ he's not very good at bowling....... so what he doesn't train for it.

Try and focus on what I'm saying..... RVP is a striker, a VERY good striker, a LONE striker is a DIFFERENT ROLE, one that RVP isn't suited to.

Look at Davies, he doesn't score much at all but is a VERY GOOD LONE STRIKER. In tough games he wins freekicks, offers an outball, wins headers, knocks the ball down, holds up the ball and helps get a bit of posession off the opposition and ever second you're in posession in their half, they aren't having shots at your goal.

RVP isn't good at those things, he isn't built for those things, in games where we had trouble last year, he didn't work well because thats not the type of striker he is.

If we played him in goal, because our manager is a moron and he ended up crap in goal, and I say he's crap in goal because he's not a goalie........ i'm not calling RVP crap.

I'm talking about WHAT THE TEAM NEEDS, and thats a guy doing a different job in those games.

Look at Utd, he even got a goal, but how often was he pushing way back into the midfield and making it very hard to get the ball forwards, it was one of his less bad games, but truly because we were SO bad defensively Utd were attacking soo much and so fast they weren't really paying attention at the back.

As for goals, again, no, thats not the be all and end all. I'll take a great performance over the full 90 minutes, over a player who gets a goal and is epically crap for the other 89 minutes, making mistake after mistake........ that guys name is Walcott. RVP scores, he's a great striker, in this dumbass system he isn't the best man for the job, because a lone striker in a tough game ISN'T about scoring, its about helping your team to win.

Essentially, keeping a clean sheet(against a good team) requires the defence to play well throughout 90 minutes, scoring a goal takes 3 seconds, you could be entirely crap for the other 89minutes and 57 seconds..... thats the difference.
 
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Alpherah said:
Don't know if its been mentioned here but Chelsea TV said the fee for Meireles is £10.5mill.

Caught with our pants down Kenny :(
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The fee was being reported as £10m up front, rising to £12m last night.
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Manchester United just announced a £110.9m pre-tax profit. Jesus. Considering they had loss £108.9m in 2009-2010 which included the transfer of Ronaldo, that is one hell of a turn around. DHL accounts for £40m, some Asian mobile company has paid a bit as well and transfer wise it is a net spend this season. I presume that the removal of those god awful PIK loans has helped with interest payments massively.

It is a £200m turnaround in a year which I am struggling to add up.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14741758
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I think you're a little confused. Utd's operating profit is ~£110m, which iinm is only around £10m more than last year.

Utd have made a pre-tax profit of ~£30m this year compared to the ~£109m loss last year but the £109m didn't include the Ronaldo sale (that was the previous year) but did include unpaid interest on the pik notes (now removed from the holding company) and substantial costs in setting up the bond scheme.

Oh and it doesn't include the DHL deal (which is ~£10m per year, not a one off £40m).
 
DM learn how to summarise and you wouldn't get have the stick you do. You could have just put.

I don't believe RVP is played in the right position as a team player and we would get more out of him if we played him with another player up front.

You could then add another paragraph if you wanted to by saying: Despite this he has still done well on a personal level with his goals per games. AMAZING PLAYER!!!

Still leaves you room at the bottom to **** off Wenger :)
 
Bloodshot said:
Rual Meireles: We paid £12m (unconfirmed). Not exactly what we needed in my opinion, clearly a plan B after Spurs were not moving on Modric. From what I saw of him at Liverpool he looks like will make a good squad player and could potentially replace Lampard in the middle if Lampard doesn't pick up his form. Pleased we got someone in the middle and that we didn't get raped on the price (for him and Modric).
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In what way do you see him replacing Lampard? As your main attacking/goalscoring midfielder?

Meireles isn't naturally an attacking midfielder and won't replace Lampard's goals. He's a continuity player; he always makes himself available for a pass and when he gets it, he plays simple but clever passes. Not dissimilar to Modric in that respect.

His unwillingness to tackle isn't as much of an issue in a 3 man central midfield with Mikel sitting but seeing as I don't see him replacing Lampard, that leaves you with a choice between Ramires and Meireles. A 3 man midfield of Lampard, Meireles and Mikel? Lacks legs imo.

Anyway, I hope he does as well for you as Torres and Benayoun have :p
 
Team: Manchester City

Players In
Sergio Aguero- So far proving to be a great signing and looks like more than a good enough replacement for Tevez if/when he leaves. Looks to have sparked up a fantastic relationship also with Dzeko.

Gael Clichy- Other than the mistake v utd he has proved himself to be a good buy. For 6m or so he will provide great competition with Kolarov.

Stefan Savic- Has looked good in pre season and the small sub appearances in the Prem. Has CL and International experience at only 20.
Will provide good competition for Lescott and K Toure for the other CB slot.

Samir Nasri- Despite having only played one game he has looked really good and seems to be playing with Silva/Toure/Aguero/Dzeko like he has done it all his life.

Costel Pantilimon- Romanian international and from what i saw last year he is a good goalkeeper. Will be great cover for Hart and who knows he might even start if Hart takes his eye off the ball.

Owen Hargreaves- The oddest signing of the summer but on a 1yr pay as you play we cant really lose. Especially if we can get him back to full fitness. Has a lot of CL and International experience so cant complain on a free.

Players Out
Shay Given- Quality goalkeeper but too good to have on the bench. Went for a bargain price to Villa. Why no one else came in for him i dont know.
Excellent in some areas but bad in others. Hart is good all round so thats why Mancini started him. Sad to see him go as he won us points by himself a couple of years ago.

Roque Santa Cruz- Never should have been bought for 18m especially with the injuries he has had. Happy he has gone.

Adebayor- Never really had a look in since AOC and with Dzeko etc he wont get a game so loaning him out with the chance to score against our opponents is a good bit of business and hopefully we offload him next summer.

SWP- Sorry to see him go as he is a City hero but his play time will be extremely limited and its only right he plays out his final years playing every game.

Boyata- Future Kompany, playing under Coyle at Bolton is exactly what he needs. Will come back next year when K Toure has probably moved on and start games but for now a loan move is best.

Weiss-Looked awesome when he was in the reserves but ultimately was never going to make it with the players we have now. Good move for him to go to Spain and hopefully they will buy him at the end.

Bellamy- Was a great player for us but acted in a manner Mancini didnt like and he has the ultimate decision.

Jo- Thank you Internacional.

Ones that got away
Alexis Sanchez- Mancini's no 1 target. Looked like a deal could be done until Barca stepped in.

Deadweights
Wayne Bridge- Not a awful player but has never performed when given the chance. Its disappointing that he couldn't get a move this summer but hopefully someone in Jan will need a LB.

Nedum Onouha- Not a bad player but just has no space in the team. Shame to see another academy player go. Spoke out about Mancini also so has nil chance of playing.

Overall, very good window for us. Strengthened all over the pitch. Brought in replacements for possible leavers eg Tevez and generally improved the quality of the squad. Making it now capable of being able to challenge for every trophy. Getting rid of nearly all our deadwood is a plus also, Jo/RSC/Weiss/Adebayor/Caicedo/SWP/Bellamy. We are going to save a hell of a lot in wages.
 
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Wayne Bridge is an awful player :p

Given that Clichy and Enrique both moved this transfer market for ~6/7 million a pop and are infinitely better then Bridge has ever been.

Didn't you ship Given off earlier too? :o
 
drunkenmaster said:
because a lone striker in a tough game ISN'T about scoring, its about helping your team to win.
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There we go folks, you heard it here first. Being a striker isnt about scoring you know. How do you help them to win WITHOUT scoring? LULZ - seriously.

Drunkenmaster, you are actually drunk when you post aren't you.

I don't recall ever reading as much garbage as this other than having the misfortune to browse the Sun newspaper.
 
Tummy said:
Wayne Bridge is an awful player :p

Given that Clichy and Enrique both moved this transfer market for ~6/7 million a pop and are infinitely better then Bridge has ever been.

Didn't you ship Given off earlier too? :o
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Doesnt mean that no one will come in for him.

I am typing it on my phone. I was sure that i did him. I will edit it now ;)
 
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