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Oh look, Tevez want's to stay now sees that Citeh can challenge for the title. :p
I am sure i read that was the reason he put in the transfer because Cook and Marwood reneged on what they said to him about new signings and challenging.

I think he has seen this summer, Aguero-Nasri-Clichy etc that we are really serious about a challenge and he wants to be part of it now.

I still see a move to Corinthians in Jan for him though. Here's hoping that we can get a few more goals out of him and let him leave on good terms.
 
I just think he's always done better when the team (or certainly attack) is set up with his as the focus, with him being the main man, the forward line has to be built around him.

With Aguero / Dezko up top looking like having a great partnership, and Balotelli can probably slot in up top in a front three and give that Silva and Nasri look to be gelling very well in the final third I imagine his form might have peaked for City.

Doesn't mean he'll be awful, but look at him in the Argentina team (a team that isn't built around him) and look at his last season with United.
 
Hence why i said Mancini just tear up his contract and let him go. I never said sell him to someone.

Not many players would have suffered the injuries he has had and still wanted to carry on coming back.
Quite a few would have just retired.

ERrm, you didn't say Mancini should just tear up his contract? Ignoring that, and assuming you did mean that, you would still end up paying him the length of his contract to "tear it up", but leaving him a free agent. Essentially if you've paid for him till say 2014, thats all there is too it, you can pay him in one lump sum and leave him able to sign for other teams, but you'll still pay him. What if, in 3 months he finally gets over his injury, but because you've released him, another club gets a 10mil player for free.

As you've paid him or WILL pay him, theres entirely no reason not to keep him till the contract is up, the biggest downside, is paying him exactly the same, the best possible outcome is he gets fit, is brilliant, world class and you keep him or he's decent enough, not first team but could sell him for 1-20mil. So biggest upside, great player, or loads of money, or a tiny bit of money, biggest downside..... none at all.

As for players, LOADS of players go through pretty awful injuries and just keep going, infact I can't name many players who give up a contract and don't battle on, again, its the career they've chosen and its highly paid, even at lower levels. Hargreaves say 80k a week at Utd is hardly a insignificant upside to the downside of being injured. I mean, think about it, you've broken your leg and knackered your knee's, you still want to get back to fitness even if you never play football again, because generally in life fitness, and lack of pain and things are fairly useful, getting paid to get healthy again isn't exactly a terrible burden footballers are under.
 
ERrm, you didn't say Mancini should just tear up his contract? Ignoring that, and assuming you did mean that, you would still end up paying him the length of his contract to "tear it up", but leaving him a free agent. Essentially if you've paid for him till say 2014, thats all there is too it, you can pay him in one lump sum and leave him able to sign for other teams, but you'll still pay him. What if, in 3 months he finally gets over his injury, but because you've released him, another club gets a 10mil player for free.

As you've paid him or WILL pay him, theres entirely no reason not to keep him till the contract is up, the biggest downside, is paying him exactly the same, the best possible outcome is he gets fit, is brilliant, world class and you keep him or he's decent enough, not first team but could sell him for 1-20mil. So biggest upside, great player, or loads of money, or a tiny bit of money, biggest downside..... none at all.

As for players, LOADS of players go through pretty awful injuries and just keep going, infact I can't name many players who give up a contract and don't battle on, again, its the career they've chosen and its highly paid, even at lower levels. Hargreaves say 80k a week at Utd is hardly a insignificant upside to the downside of being injured. I mean, think about it, you've broken your leg and knackered your knee's, you still want to get back to fitness even if you never play football again, because generally in life fitness, and lack of pain and things are fairly useful, getting paid to get healthy again isn't exactly a terrible burden footballers are under.
Really?

I have, but i am just saying that especially him being injured for so long Mancini could have just torn up his contract and let him go but he hasnt.
To me that means that he wants him around and sees him in the team.

Well money isnt the issue so if he would have left and gone on to join Sunderland and then be sold for 8m to Tottenham or something than we wouldnt regret it.
Just be disappointed he didnt progress at City.

There has been a few players who have retired through injury problems.
Of course it was in his best interests to get fully fit but he could have chosen not to.
 
Watch football a little bit closer, in the modern 4-3-3 a large part of the striker's game is receiving and distributing out wide/to a CAM and then making their way into the box. RvP is an example of one of the better men for this, his link up play is top class and he adds so much more to Arsenal than goals. DM is often wrong but he's bang on here. Many strikers in a 4-3-3 will play a lot of the game with their back to goal.

Ok just read back and Tummy stole my RvP example :(

Arsenal play 433 and DM is saying RVP DOESN'T play very well in the current formation. So you either think RVP is a bad player in this formation or you disagree with DM.
 
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