What level of calorie deficit below maintenance do you guys find optimum when cutting?
I've been cleaning up my diet over the last couple of months and trying to find what works for me, started reducing calories last week, but think over the past few days I’ve maybe reduced them too far, or I’m over training slightly maybe?
I'm a little over 14 stone, so around 90kg or 200lbs, roughly 10-12% bodyfat (3 point caliper calc done several times). Was eating around 2800-2900 cals a day except on rest day then I’d drop down to around 2400. And i could see a reasonable difference in the mirror (leaning up/maybe even adding a little muscle), but weight stayed pretty consistent, even went up slightly some weeks. So i decided to drop around 400 cals (going on Holiday next week so a little desperate attempt to look a little better for that) to try and shred the fat a little faster, trouble is i think i look worse for it and my lifts have now started to drop slightly. Thinking about going back up to 2900 cals, and just upping cardio a little bit instead.
I guess my answer is going to be to reduce calories a little slower and work from there rather than the big jump, but just wondering what other people find works for them.
I've never really cut before, i always think i start to look a little small and decide to start eating again, which i guess is my reaction again, but I'd normally just start a bulk phase again.
Training wise i'm doing push pull legs, but split into 5 days, so Push (mon), Pull (tues), Push (Thurs), Pull (Fri), Legs (Sat). Do all the main compound lifts, squats, various deadlifts, flat/incline/decline presses, OH press, cleans, etc Workouts are roughly 60 minutes long and pretty intense (compairing to the people i see in the gym anyway - been training roughly 8 years)
Cardio wise, trying to go for a run between 2-4 miles on non-training days, or if i drag myself out of bed early enough i'll do a quick fasted run before breakfast. Also cycle to work on a Wednesday (10 miles each way), and some mtbing at the weekend either peaks or cycle park. Diet is amended to suit level of activity really. ie drop/add carbs
Diet wise (Today with increased cals),
Breakfast - 85g oats in water cooked, with 50g flavoured whey added
Snack - 3 boiled eggs
Lunch - 150g Ground beef in 165g bolognaise sauce with 40g cheese and 200g green beans
Pre workout (round 2.5hr before) - 3 slices of seeded bread with light spread and 150g chicken breast.
Post workout - 50g whey, 30g dextrose, 30g maltodextrin
Dinner - 200g Chicken breast, 300g potato wedges with 200g broccoli
That's 2890 cals, so a slightly high day split P=250g C=265 F=90
Sorry for the long post, figured a little more info might get me some more input.