Pleased to hear that - There's always that horrible stabbing feeling in your gut when something like that stops working!
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Pleased to hear that - There's always that horrible stabbing feeling in your gut when something like that stops working!
I did the restore last night. Only thing I cant get is photos.
From midnight - 6.30am battery went form 100-98% I then checked usage on the way to work and it shows 8 minutes. This is with my alarm going off 3 times (maybe 30 seconds max) checking the time a couple of times and writing one note. I estimate usage at no more than 2 minutes.
Does usage cound as 3g connection or something? I dont have any daft notifications on, ping off, time location services off, iads off
From midnight - 6.30am battery went form 100-98% I then checked usage on the way to work and it shows 8 minutes. This is with my alarm going off 3 times (maybe 30 seconds max) checking the time a couple of times and writing one note. I estimate usage at no more than 2 minutes.
Does usage cound as 3g connection or something? I dont have any daft notifications on, ping off, time location services off, iads off
Soldato
Mines the same, 2 hours usage today when I've hardly touched the phone.
Soldato
Charged the phone to 100% for first time last night, since taking it off charge this morning at 7.20am it's just passed 10% battery use.
Usage stats are: (at 90% battery)
36 mins usage
3 hours 12 mins standby
Not sure if thats about right or not.
Usage stats are: (at 90% battery)
36 mins usage
3 hours 12 mins standby
Not sure if thats about right or not.
Well I'm monitoring today following the restore last night but still too early to say.
One thing I have noticed though is the usage figure. It's now far more representative of the actual time I've spent using the phone, whereas before it was far higher.
This suggests that, before the restore, something on the phone was running when I wasn't actually using it but which counted towards the 'usage' figure, but this is no longer the case.
I'll keep an eye on it but perhaps the restore has killed or cured whatever this process was?
One thing I have noticed though is the usage figure. It's now far more representative of the actual time I've spent using the phone, whereas before it was far higher.
This suggests that, before the restore, something on the phone was running when I wasn't actually using it but which counted towards the 'usage' figure, but this is no longer the case.
I'll keep an eye on it but perhaps the restore has killed or cured whatever this process was?
I turned off locations services at 10.30 and closed all apps.
I will wait until 11.30 to check usage
20 minutes usage at 10.30. Turn off all location services, no usage at all then goes up to 22 minutes usage at 11.30
Could others try this. What could be using my phone if no location services are on and no notifications?
I will wait until 11.30 to check usage
20 minutes usage at 10.30. Turn off all location services, no usage at all then goes up to 22 minutes usage at 11.30
Could others try this. What could be using my phone if no location services are on and no notifications?
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Try not using it for an hour at all with location service off. I bet usage will go up slightly
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Hmm, what about your email? Is it set to push, if so how often?
mail contacts calendar > fetch new data is on push, manually
hotmail mail is on, main folders to push - inbox
I take that push will only sync when i open mail? fetch is to automatically sync every hour, 15 mins etc
edit - ive just changed push to manual for icloud and email. I didnt know it automatically pushed from the server even when not in use
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Since the restore I think i'm actually getting worse battery life if not the same, anyway, it's made no positive impact.
Standby: 2 hours, 13 minutes
Usage: 1 hour, 7 minutes.
83% Battery Remaining.
Only, I haven't used it for that long, about 45 minutes maximum, i've disabled all I can as well.
Something in iOS 5 is causing this in the background, it has to be.
Standby: 2 hours, 13 minutes
Usage: 1 hour, 7 minutes.
83% Battery Remaining.
Only, I haven't used it for that long, about 45 minutes maximum, i've disabled all I can as well.
Something in iOS 5 is causing this in the background, it has to be.
Soldato
There is definitely a bug. I also think I know why the restorations and resets work. I've been testing it for the past three days and it looks like there is some sort of process and network bug. Hear me out - it's easy enough for you all of you to test.
The phone can have relatively good stand by and very low active usage after you start fresh and just let it sit on your desk, use it as a phone etc.
The moment you start using mail and network utils something odd happens. Even if you exit all apps manually, mail and browser processes still exist in memory. There is also a persistant netstat connection to various servers at push.apple.com domain even if your mail settings are to fetch manually and push is disabled.
I tested it last night, charged it to full, opened mail, fetched manually, then manually synced contacts between phone and google exchange setting. I then double tapped menu button, manually ended ALL tasks. Pressed power button for the phone to go to sleep. In the morning I had 54% of battery, 11h44m standby and whooping 9h15m Usage. Phone was asleep, done no more than 20 seconds of active use since charge. I checked netstat and surely enough two connections active to push.apple.com - one for whooping 56 minutes, the other for 6 minutes, looked like the second connection was polling actively, opening and closing while the other would just hang in there for hours. What's weirder, despite the fact double tap suggested there were no open tasks, Mail still had an active process ID in ps. Maybe I don't understand something about process managent in IOS and this is some sort of prefetch, but I don't think it's right.
And here is my explanation of why people who tried all the various "solutions" - from restore to resetting network connections etc - could see improved battery life - this is purely because of one common thing in all of those solutions - complete reset of all network connections. If I'm right, simple full reset/reboot is enough to stop battery drain, until you open one thing or another and net process for one of those things starts hanging and keeps leaking even after you fully exit the app.
The phone can have relatively good stand by and very low active usage after you start fresh and just let it sit on your desk, use it as a phone etc.
The moment you start using mail and network utils something odd happens. Even if you exit all apps manually, mail and browser processes still exist in memory. There is also a persistant netstat connection to various servers at push.apple.com domain even if your mail settings are to fetch manually and push is disabled.
I tested it last night, charged it to full, opened mail, fetched manually, then manually synced contacts between phone and google exchange setting. I then double tapped menu button, manually ended ALL tasks. Pressed power button for the phone to go to sleep. In the morning I had 54% of battery, 11h44m standby and whooping 9h15m Usage. Phone was asleep, done no more than 20 seconds of active use since charge. I checked netstat and surely enough two connections active to push.apple.com - one for whooping 56 minutes, the other for 6 minutes, looked like the second connection was polling actively, opening and closing while the other would just hang in there for hours. What's weirder, despite the fact double tap suggested there were no open tasks, Mail still had an active process ID in ps. Maybe I don't understand something about process managent in IOS and this is some sort of prefetch, but I don't think it's right.
And here is my explanation of why people who tried all the various "solutions" - from restore to resetting network connections etc - could see improved battery life - this is purely because of one common thing in all of those solutions - complete reset of all network connections. If I'm right, simple full reset/reboot is enough to stop battery drain, until you open one thing or another and net process for one of those things starts hanging and keeps leaking even after you fully exit the app.
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