********** The all new "Official" iPhone 4S thread - Keep all the iPhone 4S stuff in here **********

Rossi~ said:
Thinking about it, It looks to me were meant to release the iPhone 5, had the design and prototypes for it but something wasn't right, which explains the delay. So therefore they shoved it all in an iPhone 4 with the same screen.
That's what i hope happened anyway, i'm trying to justify not hating Apple for this i think lol
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Not really. The whole '5' thing came from Chinese blogs saying that they had iPhone 5 dimensions/CAD plans or whatever. This snowballed until people actually believed that was what we were getting. Got trolled, basically.

Also with the 4S, I think it's worth noting that by using the existing shell, that's probably millions of antenna's/glass front/backs/screens that aren't going to get wasted or dumped or need to be recycled etc. They'll probably have enough of those parts to last from 2010 to 2012 when it'll get a redesign and all the 4 owners on 24month contracts in America will be looking at what phone to get next.
 
I have to admit, i'll probably get one despite already having an iP4. I'm due an upgrade next month and it doesn't look like anything will happen on the iP5/6 front until at least next summer.

I would consider switching to Android/Windows but:

a) I don't want to have to re-buy my apps.
b) The app store just isn't anywhere near as good.
c) I'm used to the iPhone.

Is that a silly thing to do on my part?
 
Somnambulist said:
As far as I'm aware, iPhone 4 cases will fit the 4S. Thus, you have a year's worth of accessories already available, which is obviously handy.
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Pretty sure the CDMA iP4 has different button placements to the GSM iP4 we use - the iP4S is based on the CDMA iP4 AFAIK. Things will fit form factor wise, but buttons may not be readily accessible dependent on the accessory...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
For what you can probably sell your iP4 for still, you won't be spending loads overall on the 4S. The advantage of Apple stuff's high resale value. People spend more in a month on booze and pee it up the all wall. JOIN US.
 
ps3ud0 said:
Pretty sure the CDMA iP4 has different button placements to the GSM iP4 we use - the iP4S is based on the CDMA iP4 AFAIK. Things will fit form factor wise, but buttons may not be readily accessible dependent on the accessory...

ps3ud0 :cool:
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I guess it's down to how the case is actually designed. I know many cases are CDMA/GSM iPhone compatible as, for example, Grove who make the wood cases don't need to change anything for their product to fit the 4S. I'm not a huge fan of cases anyway and will be looking for a nice quality sleeve, so there's plenty to choose from already. :)
 
Tute said:
Can iOS or Android make use of multiple cores properly, or does it need to be programmed into apps?
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Since the underlying operating systems are essential OSX and Linux, they can both make good use of multiple cores.

However, it is up to app developers to write their apps to fully optimised for multiple cores and the job isn't easy.
 
Tute said:
I have to admit, i'll probably get one despite already having an iP4. I'm due an upgrade next month and it doesn't look like anything will happen on the iP5/6 front until at least next summer.

I would consider switching to Android/Windows but:

a) I don't want to have to re-buy my apps.
b) The app store just isn't anywhere near as good.
c) I'm used to the iPhone.

Is that a silly thing to do on my part?
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Depending on network, can't you take out a 12m contract with money off your bill instead of a new phone, then you'l be set for 5 next year?

Although saying that, its probably not much different financially to taking out a IP4s contract and selling your 4.
 
Somnambulist said:
I guess it's down to how the case is actually designed. I know many cases are CDMA/GSM iPhone compatible as, for example, Grove who make the wood cases don't need to change anything for their product to fit the 4S. I'm not a huge fan of cases anyway and will be looking for a nice quality sleeve, so there's plenty to choose from already. :)
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Oh I tend to agree but its not really a years worth of accessories as all mine are from launch but wont work with the new iP5 it seems. Probably everything made/remade since the CDMA release will work...

The official iP4 bumper wont I think? Be good to be wrong though :)

Im sad I case and sleeve mine :p. Its mint for a reason :p

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
e36Adz said:
It is sad watching people defend Apple when deep down they know yesterday was a massive massive let down. It you want the best technology available, like a lot of people do, it is not an iPhone, harsh but true.
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In some respects it is better technology, in others it isn't. Due to the differing nature of the systems you can't state things like that as fact.

Tute said:
Is that a silly thing to do on my part?
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No, it isn't silly.

Now, to quote a post I made a while ago about why I use my iPhone 4 instead of my Galaxy S II/Sensation/etc -

The iPhone 4 is still comfortably the best overall phone for me. I own all the best Android phones and I do like them, but even though they are more powerful, they still don't top the iPhone.

To take a slightly harsh(ish) view of Android, like many do of iOS -

  • Customisation is nice, but relatively useless to most people and doesn't 'save' a great deal of time, nor do many of the widgets look nice

  • Widgets, a big selling point, often don't update properly and can be a bit of a faff (you can say otherwise but I've got plenty of experience of them not doing)

  • It generally looks very ugly unless it has HTC Sense running, without that it feels severely under-polished

  • The app market IS considerably inferior on Android, the design of the apps are just a world apart too (in most cases)

  • The iPhone 4 is easily the most satisfying phone to hold and use. I don't think the Galaxy S II is badly made at all, it's light and functional and solid but it isn't satisfying at all. The iPhone 4 oozes quality. You don't NEED it in a case at all, I have it in a leather pouch, perfectly fine

  • Also, Android has all this hardware power, but near on bugger all to utilise it, you'd still think the iPhone was the more powerful phone if you were comparing fancy apps (like games for example)

  • There is STILL no service like iTunes, like it or not, Android offers nothing like it

  • Overall, it's less stable and less reliable overall, and various parts of the OS feel 'cheap'

  • One of my favourite points about Android is the notification system, and Apple have stolen that now for iOS 5

  • Battery life. The Galaxy S II isn't far off but the iPhone 4 still runs away with it.

  • As an actual phone, I think the iPhone 4 performs better than the SGS2, Sensation, etc, but it isn't better than my Bold 9900 for calls and so forth, and nor should it be!

  • The camera STILL holds up to the Galaxy S II camera, it's not quite as good but there isn't much in it. Same goes for the video although the 1080p on the SGS2 is very, very good.

Let's take an example. When I get my phone out, I want to unlock it (with the very solid and satisfying iOS lock screen) and then do something with it. I see all of my options for things to do on the 'horrible' wall of icons and choose what I want to do. Having a widget that saves me pressing a button doesn't bother me at all.

It used to bother me, I used to really like widgets and I still do, but I certainly don't need them and the trade-off to get them isn't even close to being worth it.

I'd like a 4" screen and I hope we'll get that with the iPhone 5. The iPad 2 internals and 1GB RAM would provide a perfectly adequate and stable hardware setup for the next 1 year+. Also, I expect the camera to be quite a bit better too, with perhaps an improved sensor as well as 8MP.

I know mrk isn't going to agree, but that's just my honest view on things and I think I can speak from experience on the matter (as I've used all of the latest devices very extensively; I have most of them).
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I think that should cover it. :)
 
Alpherah said:
Depending on network, can't you take out a 12m contract with money off your bill instead of a new phone, then you'l be set for 5 next year?

Although saying that, its probably not much different financially to taking out a IP4s contract and selling your 4.
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Well i'm just keeping low now until Orange/T-Mobile and O2 announce their tariffs. Then it'll be a case of sitting down for an evening and running the figures. If it turns out cheaper to go SIM-free then that's what i'll do. If not, then i'll probably go contract.

I can't see there being any 12 month iPhone contracts though, it'll be like the iP4 - 18 month minimum.
 
Von Luck said:
From the pics on the Apple site all of the buttons look to be in the same places and dimensions are the same, so cases for the 4 should fit fine.

I'm now tempted to upgrade my 4, provided I can persuade my wife and sweeten the deal by letting her have my hand-me-down :D
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Looking here it only seems that the mute button has moved...

iP4:
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iP4S:
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ps3ud0 :cool:
 
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Tute said:
Well i'm just keeping low now until Orange/T-Mobile and O2 announce their tariffs. Then it'll be a case of sitting down for an evening and running the figures. If it turns out cheaper to go SIM-free then that's what i'll do. If not, then i'll probably go contract.

I can't see there being any 12 month iPhone contracts though, it'll be like the iP4 - 18 month minimum.
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o2 loyalty, we get 12m contracts ;) expensive though unless you go sim only.
 
ps3ud0 said:
Seems less space between mute and vol up to me. Did you have to quote me mid-fixing up the images :p...

ps3ud0 :cool:
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Yeah, I've just lined them up in photoshop while you were doing that and the mute button has shifted down a little bit, as have the volume buttons.

That seems stupid as it may cause case problems.
 
The 4S is the same as the CDMA iPhone right? Sena who do the swanky leather cases have their line divided by iPhone cases for Verizon (CDMA) and AT&T (GSM), or fits both. I think that's the right way round.
 
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