Good vid.
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** The AMD Navi Thread **
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Only problem is his numbers
The PS5 specs - Sony isnt going to put a 200w GPU in a tiny console. Also 2.2ghz GDDR6, really that's a 30% overclock from current GDDR6 top range memory speed. If you compare Navi 60 desktop specs and PS5 specs, the PS5 looks like it should be faster, yet Navi 60 draws more power
Its all over the show with little inconsistencies
But still it's a good video overall - the only reason I'd say he's wrong about the dominating part is looking at the prices he puts up, they are not far off from the Nvidia equivalent. Not sure about you guys, but I reckon given the same shader performance, I'd rather pay $30 more to get Ray Tracing, DLSS and Adaptive Shaders
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Yes makes sense if those leaked prices are right. I'd liked to have had the Navi 20 cards out now but as I don't have a decent GPU atm I'll take top end Navi 10 until then.
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Pretty sure I read that Navi supports this, which is good.
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As is the comparison benchmark which doesn't take into account the overclock head room of a 980Ti taking it to "not far below a stock 1080"
mediocre ?? More like pathetic WE CRUSHED COMPETITION !!!!
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Vega 56 can be had for £236 with 2 free games, can't see how Navi will deliver value but we'll see.
Geez amd must be making peanuts on these cards
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AMD are most likely making a massive loss on that and not much on a Polaris card now at current pricing (8gb of GDDR5 is about a £25 BOM alone). Navi needs to have the scope to be cheaper to produce over its lifetime compared to say vega etc
The games cost AMD nothing and Navi is magnitudes cheaper to produce, so quids in for AMD. As to value for the rest of us, the Vega 56 equivalent Navi will be a bit cheaper and won't draw anywhere near as much power. And Vega 10 is going to be EOL soon, if it's not already.
but will navi give 2 games also that is thwe question !!!
Don't see why not, like I said the keys will have cost AMD peanuts. Throw some games in with the first batch of Navi sales to sweeten the deal.
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I know you were joking, but the question really is will Navi give significantly >56 performance for significantly <£. £238 for Vega is veeeery good for perf / £.
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This is all I care about, how much faster than my current Vega 56 for £250. If its not much faster or more expensive than that then there is no reason to change and I simply wont care, I certainly wont get all upset about like some people seem to
I'm not sure it being 'GCN' is particularly relevant to discussion of Navi.
The CU / SP design has fundamentally changed, which was the main limiting factor previously.
Next gen is supposed to be the ground up redesign though, which neither AMD nor NVIDIA have done for a very long time, now. Maybe since VLIW to GCN. Everything else since for both has been iterative.
Presumably Next Gen will finally see the chiplets they've been working on for so long. I think it may be mainly about making that viable. I don't think it will be a radical break from Navi otherwise though, as that would ruin synergy with Navi based consoles.
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It'll do well to match that value proposition imo Vega 56 is incredible value right now. I mean even if it matches Vega 56 at £250, Navi 10 Pro will have to be 2070 level at £400 for it to make any sense.
It's not now but it was then. It's only very recently have we had leaks that point to the traditional GCN configuration being changed up.
DP was saying the chiplets idea is stupid and only noobs suggest it. He never did elaborate why though when I asked
Most people seemed in general agreement that it was going to replace Navi in the mid-range and expected it to be around the Vega performance for a lower price. However the last few weeks with Leaks appearing, the hype has well and truly hit 480 levels.
This is what im thinking, If Navi doesnt beat it for the same price, I think id be very underwhelmed