i know you're right... i know... i just cant help wanting to see this go further though... you know, that curiosity of "how far can this baby go?" lol... the northbridge is pretty damn hot though (almost burning finger type of hot) at stock NB voltage and stock FSB (266), i think with a bit of volts and a lot better cooling it might go somewhere... i'd love to just see how far this board can go given a chance... but you're definitely right Cob, if I want to overclock this CPU properly i should get an overclockers board