I was thinking that.. maybe they where going for some 'roll-over' sessions.. and maxed the height out to make it easier!
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I was thinking that.. maybe they where going for some 'roll-over' sessions.. and maxed the height out to make it easier!
Its rendered at 720p 4xMSAA, but obviously can be up scaled to 1080p automatically by the 360...
If rumours are to be believed, you might only be playing it for a couple of weeks or so then, I wouldn't bother!..
If you gel more towards GT, you may be in luck, more and more people are jumping on the 'before' XMas rumour..
It'll be a pain for me, I want both, but FM3 for the real racing/community events, GT for just doing SP and more car porn..
Each to their own!
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Oh bugger, I really wish I hadnt wandered into this thread,I so want a fanatec wheel now
Are there many stand type things available? I do have the MS wheel already, so i might just make do with a stand.
Even worse for me..
The master plan is to get another PS3 (sold my last late last year!) for GT5 as well as FM3, as I love all driving games, however, cost of Fanatec wheel = cost of PS3 (just about).. and I can't afford both!..
Decisions, Decisions...
I'd love one, but it's a case of the cost..
Basically £305 for Turbo S with basic pedals/shifters/dongle..
With the exchange rate hitting us badly it's just a bit too much...
It is looking like it is 'the' wheel to get, what we really need is a £150 'g25' quality 360 wheel for the inbetween quality/price point and I'd splash the cash..
I don't think it's derailing the thread, it's a good question.
I think the bottom line is, we all know how awesome value for money it is considering the quality and it can be used cross platform, but it's still a lot of actual money..
Quite a few of the fastest guys in the world still use a pad, I don't think not having the most expensive wheel you can buy makes you casual.. it depends what you are after..
In NFS:Shift all their cars seem to be done out in race livery (I can't find a shot of a standard road car), thus it's conceivable they are licenced as race cars, which is a different set of rules iirc and possibly why they've managed to get the level of damage etc..
I'm sure if the standard GT-R doesn't make it, it will be as you say, because of commercial reasons, whether that be exclusivity or tie in with Sony (and why not, PD have some relationship with the GT-R afterall)..
I don't think Che has said anything really, it twas the Tofu R guy that just really said they couldn't get the licence, but didn't really know why, hypothesising that if other games had it, then it must be political/commercial, but yep, that looks for sure EA have the production version! Nice..
Oh, did you also hear Thomas from Fanatec has confirmed that the Vibrating brake pedal on the clubsport pedals will be supported by the 360 in FM3!!
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New JDM Yo! Images up..
http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/media/images/default.htm#/screenshot/1296/
and Pit Pass
http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/_templates/NewsDetail.aspx?id=1318
Just yet more pretty decent looking Photo's.. (Click for large)
And please someone, make me a Castrol livery for this..
http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/media/images/default.htm#/screenshot/1296/
and Pit Pass
http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/_templates/NewsDetail.aspx?id=1318
Just yet more pretty decent looking Photo's.. (Click for large)
And please someone, make me a Castrol livery for this..
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Seems like a lot of screen tear as well, I really hope not
None here..!
At least it's all replay cam footage (no-doubt), so a much closer to reality then the photo-mode shots!..
It doesn't have the glamour of a PD video, but it's still mighty nice none the less..
That list is a fraction old I believe, and not as 'official' as you may think (despite being on the FM.NET forums!)
The best place to go is..
http://www.forzacentral.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31595
This shows a more 'definitive' (Ba-dum) list of cars revealed so far..
BadNed, the guy who runs the site is clearly an insider or someone who works very closely with T10, he knows the entire list, but does compile the list when 'proof' is given, it usually just takes a vague low-res picture, and he'll take it as good enough, then puts the exact model year/type up..
I am confident to say, this and his track list are pukka.. And he even drops hints everynow and again, or releases some random photo's..
Just for comparison..
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PUMA who are sponsoring FM3 had an article about the new Natasha Ganshang (sp?) being the new face of Forza, and that she was due to race at Donington later in the year, but hadn't been to the circuit before and was practicing it on FM3..
This seemed to indicate Donington was in the game..
However T10 soon jumped on it and said it was a mistake..
There is an outside chance it was a quick attempt to deny/cover it up, as BadNed on Forzacentral did initially go with it, and updated his track list, which he then revoked saying it was a surprise to him.. which is odd, as clearly he has much inside knowledge of T10 and all cars/tracks..
I wouldn't hold my breath however, but it would have been nice.
115+ Layouts/Courses is all we've been told...
We've had 19 tracks sort of confirmed with just over 70 'courses' although one or two tracks don't have their layouts mentioned yet. I'd say there are at least 4 or 5 tracks left we don't know about..
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Yeah, The Joystiq video is hideously compressed and that still is really poor quality..
Hopefully T10 will release some better images, and perhaps the uncompressed vid!
Oh, and a youtube of the vid if that's easier the Joystiq's stream..
There is a bit of information released on some points..
Lets face it, all games have flawed AI, FM2 was not the worst by a long shot, but you are right, it needed improving.. The facts so far for improvements are that AI now can make mistakes if pressured (level dependant), the difficulty of the hardest level has been increased. The AI's awareness has also been improved, they should yield much more cleanly this time.
I think this is one thing they all keep close to their chests. They mention tyre deformation (obviously), but the actual extents of this are not known, we do keep getting the claims that some aspect of the tyre deformation is not being done even on PC sims (according to the dubious Dan G). The problem is it's easy to claim tyre deformation, but how accurate and advanced this is is anyones guess. Some tidbits we've been told are that it can even allow for the tyre slipping on the wheel.. coupled with what sounds to be a reasonable attempt at tyre deformation bodes well enough, but somehow I doubt it's going to set the world alight, not that it needs to..
Oh, and collision physics has improved, you can 'lean' on other cars more realisitically (very welcome), FM2's collision physics was the same for static barriers and other cars but it generally worked OK, FM3 is reported by users to a nice step in this regard.
I think that's easy to assess.. apart from the obvious difference between a wheel (Even the MS Wheel) and a controller are the same for all games, the clutch is mappable to a button (negating the clutch pedal), the only thing I can see is the clubsport vibrating brake pedal with it's load cell design would naturally allow more consistent use of non-abs brakes?
In what way? as I say, we know the clutch is mappable to a button and it's a digital affair in operation, so what is left?
A good point, it's been talked about quite a bit, but no news so far, I'd agree it should take this into account, but the proof that some of the top drivers still use a pad seem to keep negating the idea that the wheel is dominant.
Any car contact/drafting/wheels off the course etc are uncertified in the game, the leaderboards automatically put certified times above non-certified times. There should be no instances of this occuring. I know you can report these things to T10 in the event they occur, are you then asking if they have the ability to remove individual times rather then a whole leaderboard clear? I don't know, but it would be handy, wiping leaderboards has happened in so many games lately that you do wonder why they aren't doing something about it.
The only thing mentioned is that aero is more prevalent in the damage model, but this seemed to be in FM2, so no idea what that actually translates to, I believe it's going to be largely FM2 which wasn't too bad. Visually, it does seem that the deformation has more 'detail' to it
Any contact with another car uncertifies your lap. This was mentioned in a recentish interview, and the phrase "You need to drive super clean to get a certified time" was used..
A good point, would be nice, no mention though! I liked this in Race Pro, although I would have like more detail then just 3 sectors.
Good point, I'll check some vids, but I am unsure.
Yes they do, in terms of weight reduction/roll cages at least (that's all that has been said). I doubt boost guages are added when adding turbo's though..
Would be good, but I don't think it's been mentioned and therefore unlikely.
I was championing that fact over on the official forums, it's a nice touch to have and adds a nice visual impact IMO.
It was initially quite disappointing in a way for me, but the more work I realise they are putting in, the more I'm happier to accept that deadlines where the reason it had to be cut.
Nicely, the leaked Tofu-R information at least shows, it's in the list of features they wanted, along with weather/nighttime etc etc..
On the plus side, at least it should be more possible in FM4 since the graphics engine is pretty much good enough now, just some minor tweaks for the next version are required, the rest should be content/features etc.
The career mode has 2 ways of using it.
1. You have a calendar style system, each race you do determines the next 3 events given to you on your calendar, so it dynamically changes the choices based on several factors.. Trying to keep you in racing how you like.. This sounds a bit better
or
2. As seen in the vids you can just bypass the calendar and see all events, which are unlocked depending on various things.
The rewind is available all the time, and yes it could be used to just go for an easy life, if you are that lazy of course, you can just hire an AI driver and not even do the races at all.. Or set the AI to super-easy, etc..
The problem with all these racing games is that to keep it accessible you can always dumb them down to make it super easy, you have to self moderate if you want the ultimate challenge, this is just an evolutionary step in making it more fun, certainly not revolutionary, which is OK I guess.