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They're likely ruined anyway. Dispose of responsibly
They hold a charge up to 4.2V (there were two that were knackered). Normally I would use old batts for pulsing new coils etc, but I wouldn't trust these things for that if I got a short!
I would get the kit with the nitecore charger (much better) and 2 18650 batts instead of the 18350s
Thanks mateThose 18650 batteries supplied are Sony ones as opposed to Panasonic ones that people recommended, would Sony ones will be more than suitable?
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They'll be fine. You may find after a while that they aren't as able to cope when they are running low, but I go through 2 18350s in a day easily, whereas one 18650 lasts me all day. I do like the small form factor, but I couldn't use them every day. More of a night out thing for me. Besides, you can always pick up more!
I generally vape between 2-3ml a day. If you're concerned about your nic intake, maybe drop the strength of your liquids? Then you can still chain vape, but without whizzing your **** off at the end of the day. Or have two batches, one for day, one weaker juice for evening use.
I wouldn't go straight into mech mods and stainless steel wicks just yet. They are a huge fiddle at the start, so I would suggest a good variable voltage mod like the SVD or Vamo, and then stick a protank on top. You can aalways put a new atty on top, but the VV mod will mean less fiddling with multi-meters and recoiling to get the right resistance coil.
OK guys, it's question time, I'm afraid:
I have 2x Apollo VVs and 1x Kanger Protank (I recloil them myself now) and 1x Vivi Nova. I tend to use the Protank as it's better now I've fixed all the leaking issues and taped 2 of the air holes:
I'd like to change the batteries at some point, but I'm loathe to spend 150 quid (or whatever) on a Provari. Ideally, I'd spend nothing, but I don't think the Apollo is really good enough for my requirements (I vape almost exclusively these days). Could definitely find 100 quid (preferably less) but it would need to be significantly better than what I've got now (i.e. not just more shiny with better build/longevity)
Any suggestions that are different to the Provari idea? Vamo perhaps? Anything better than a recloiled Protank 1 for me?
I feel demanding, but there's a lot of knowledge here
Either a Vamo or SVD (I prefer my SVD now) would be a good budget upgrade. Better battery life than the Apollos, better fine tuning of voltage, variable wattage. And the option to go either 18350 mini mode or 18650 lightsaber mode. Only £25 from fasttech too (plus batts)
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why stainless wicks? Silica setups are less of a faff and they taste great.
My point exactly!
It's not really important if you aren't using steel wick. As long as you are using a reasonable gauge wire then you can pretty much guess the resistance from the number of wraps. What device are you putting it on? If it isn't variable voltage then you might want slightly thicker wire to get a lower res coil and make the volts go a bit further (1.6Ohms on an ego batt is quite nice, which I acheive with 4 wraps of .3 ribbon kanthal on 3 strands of 1mm wick, but that's on a nova)
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Yep, every now and then maybe take the cap off to let fresh air in and speed up the process. You can also sit the bottle in a hot (but not too hot) water bath to really speed it up. I'm not sure if I'd recommend that with plastic bottles though
Yeah you'll be fine then. They don't fire under 1.2Ohms anyway, so you just gotta try and get as close to that as you can. Like I said, 4 wraps of .3 ribbon kanthal (very different to .3 normal wire btw) does about 1.6-1.8Ohms for me and vapes quite nicely on an ego battery.
Yeah. If I put a 2.5 Ohm head on a 3.7V battery, I die a little inside.
V = I*R, so
3.7V=I*2.5
I= 3.7/2.5 = 1.48A
3.7= I*1.6
I= 3.7/1.6 = 2.31A
So lots more current through the coil, which means a hotter coil, so more vapour and more of this
I have, yeah. I would recommend everyone here do the same. As it stands, that article will put most business out of business, and will make getting shiny mods and liquid very difficult.
Since we're on the topic of regulation etc, I thought I'd put this up for discussion here. One of my work colleagues and I got chatting while having a vape, and she was telling me how her friend caught her 14yr old son smoking. He said that he didn't really like smoking but wanted an ecig like hers because "all the other kids had them" at their school. So this friend is now considering buying her 14yr old son an ecig and zero Nic liquid to keep him off the cigarettes.
Until thus point, I had always assumed ecigs would be "uncool" with kids, but it seems they offer an undetectable way for kids to "smoke" which they still see as cool. I was a bit unsure how I felt about the idea of a 14yr old vaping. Surely, given an absolute choice between cigarettes and zero Nic ecig, the ecig is the lesser of two evils, but it didn't feel right to me. What do you guys think about this? Does it justify concerns about vaping renormalising smoking? Would these kids be smoking anyway, so this is at least safer? What are the long term repurcussions?
Until thus point, I had always assumed ecigs would be "uncool" with kids, but it seems they offer an undetectable way for kids to "smoke" which they still see as cool. I was a bit unsure how I felt about the idea of a 14yr old vaping. Surely, given an absolute choice between cigarettes and zero Nic ecig, the ecig is the lesser of two evils, but it didn't feel right to me. What do you guys think about this? Does it justify concerns about vaping renormalising smoking? Would these kids be smoking anyway, so this is at least safer? What are the long term repurcussions?
Looks pretty good, but I still think you'd enjoy a VV mod better than a mech. Still, you can always get both since they're cheap.
Apparently they aren't fussed about the nic content, he just wants to have an ecig. Still, I was surprised and concerned tbh, and said the same thing. She tried to educate him on why she vapes, but to be fair, I knew smoking was bad for me when I was young but just didn't care/understand. So vaping is "in" with kids it seems. It certainly doesn't help our cause. Unfortunately what is cool to adults overlaps to kids a bit, and lobbyists will take one look at GVC and say "they're even making custard flavours to get kids into it!". Yeah, and Ferrari make cars kids think are cool so they'll buy their fast cars and die! Clearly not the case, but it's a soft target nonetheless.
I guess what I'm saying is that we do need to consider the impact ecigs could have on kids who aren't the intended users. On the one hand, if they aren't smoking, great. On the other, it's easy to hide, and developing a nic addiction at that age is not a good thing. In the same vein as that I wouldn't want young kids pouring 10 cups of coffee down their gobs every day.
It's mainly build quality. But that's probably the way to go. Try them out on the cheap and then invest in a longer lasting version.
All VW devices will be VV as well (not necessarily the other way around), but you're right in thinking VW is easier to use.
Pros and cons
Mech: pro, no circuitry getting in the way of the current. Con, more fiddling with attys to get the coil heat right
VV/VW mods: pro, easy to use, change the coil heat on the fly with no fiddle. Con, big, more prone to malfunction/damage.
They each have their benefits, but because of the extra hassle mechs involve, they're generally better suited to enthusiasts who don't mind recoiling and recoiling to get the right resistance. VV/VW is very user friendly. Using a kick is basically turning a mech into a VV mod, but does mean you lose some of that mech hard hitting current.
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