This is why people are losing respect for the police...

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Craterloads said:
He’s just a bit more bad ass and and decided to put himself in harms way tackling the protestors.
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There were hundreds if not thousands of people and the police had told people to stay at home, he's one person he can grab a few people briefly at once to... save a bin, stop a pallet from burning and at one point from a little line. It was pure PR stuff and he shouldn't have been there.
 
dowie said:
There were hundreds if not thousands of people and the police had told people to stay at home, he's one person he can grab a few people briefly at once to... save a bin, stop a pallet from burning and at one point from a little line. It was pure PR stuff and he shouldn't have been there.
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It’s everyone’s duty as citizens to stop the unrest where it is within their powers to do so. like he said in the video there was a house next to the blaze. What if there were children inside, perhaps that little bit he did saved a life.

And clearly during the day he and Salma were telling people to leave and back away. She’s was on the ground with him, she’s seen speaking to the same Romanian family.

Now let’s together say it “Councillor Mothin Ali is a hero” I know it’s hard but I believe in you :p

www.dailymail.co.uk

Moment Leeds Green Party 'Gaza councillor' heroically stops rioters

Mothin Ali is a member of the Green Party and the local councillor for the Hare Hill area of Leeds where chaos erupted last night as rioters wreck havoc in the Yorkshire city
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Even the DM used the term heroically.
 
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Craterloads said:
I’m still not sure what went “viral” a screen shot? along with video from an earlier date with fake right wing narrative? The only original thing in the tweet was a screen grab, there’s literally nothing to go viral.
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Just to be clear, what TR posted was accurate, because TR never posted WHY he was there, just the fact that he was. So whilst you can argue semantics (what did he 'imply' with his tweet etc), you can't say that what TR posted was actually wrong, no matter what we think of him.

Craterloads said:
Now let’s together say it “Councillor Mothin Ali is a hero” I know it’s hard but I believe in you :p
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Peoples definition of "hero" is disgusting low if simply telling a few people to grow up makes you a hero. What he did was obviously good, admirable even, but not in any way was it "heroic", even if the Daily Fail says so.
 
dowie said:
There were hundreds if not thousands of people and the police had told people to stay at home, he's one person he can grab a few people briefly at once to... save a bin, stop a pallet from burning and at one point from a little line. It was pure PR stuff and he shouldn't have been there.
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Yeah I'm out... You just went full on mental and have now decided to switch your insinuation that he acted differently once he knew the cameras were on him to "he shouldnt have been there"

Dowie:

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EDIT: I'm sure you'll post about this be another ad hominem again but, in all fairness, its relevant to what you are posting and how you are posting it.
 
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Richie said:
Yeah I'm out... Your just went full on mental and have now decided to switch your insinuation that he acted differently once he knew the cameras were on him to "he shouldnt have been there.
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You're just in here because of some weird grudge, should have known when you start bringing up Tommy Robinson in reply to me.

It was quite clearly some pointless PR thing when the camera guy filming him just kept on mentioning his name.

ianh said:
Peoples definition of "hero" is disgusting low if simply telling a few people to grow up makes you a hero. What he did was obviously good, admirable even, but not in any way was it "heroic", even if the Daily Fail says so.
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I don't even think it was particularly good, obviously the comments that he's a hero when he didn't really stop much at all are just pure hyperbole but it seemed pretty opportunistic regardless, the police requested everyone to stay home... this guy; let's look for photo/video opportunities.
 
ianh said:
Peoples definition of "hero" is disgusting low if simply telling a few people to grow up makes you a hero. What he did was obviously good, admirable even, but not in any way was it "heroic", even if the Daily Fail says so.
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Idk wrestling with rioters and thugs in the middle of the night, potentially putting yourself in serious harm to prevent further destruction to your own neighbourhood along with potentially allowing the fire to spread to a occupied house next to the blaze, all without a police presence or security is pretty badass and heroic if you ask me.

Anywho I was just on a little wind up on what was essentially the end of the discussion.
 
throwaway4372 said:
Why is this garbage discussion still going on? Same videos, same fake twitter nonsense, none of us were there, none of us heard of the guy before.
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There is a literal video of him there before, in the daylight, trying to cool things off.
 
dlockers said:
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: where you made lots of conjecture, no?
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Lots of conjecture re: what he was doing earlier? No, this was my comment on the still:

dowie said:
It is him, it's not clear what he was doing earlier and whether that later clip is a reaction to him previously being filmed/photographed.

It went viral so there is an obvious incentive to then be filmed condemning the rioting and saying a few words.
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Maybe stick to what was said eh?
 
dowie said:
dowie said:
Lots of conjecture re: what he was doing earlier? No, this was my comment on the still:



Maybe stick to what was said eh?
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This bit lad

dowie said:
That other guy joined the rioters and doesn't seem to have done much until after it went viral that he was there. The clips of him are late at night with him filmed saying a few words and taking a bin/pallet off a kid. It seems somewhat opportunist/for PR when unlike the other councilor he doesn't seem to have done much earlier.
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dowie said:
Relative to staying home as per the police request and sending out a message to others with the police requesting they do the same.
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Gotcha. So being there, escorting the main "victim", encouraging people to stop is worse effort than staying at home. For someone who said:

dowie said:
use his influence as a community leader and try to stop the riot?
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You now believe he is lesser than the other counsellor and should have just stayed at home? :S Feels like this guy couldn't have won!
 
dlockers said:
Gotcha. So being there, escorting the main "victim", encouraging people to stop is worse effort than staying at home. For someone who said:

You now believe he is lesser than the other counsellor and should have just stayed at home? :S Feels like this guy couldn't have won!
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The "victim" LOL

Notice you cropped the context there and ask if I now believe that? It's pretty clear I believed that already:
dowie said:
Another local councilor was with police when it was still daylight and filming a video telling people to stay indoors. Did this guy reach out to fellow councilors or the Police and offer to use his influence as a community leader and try to stop the riot? It doesn't appear so.
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