UK Government set to ban disposable vapes

The ban isn't due to come in until 2025, so another year of kids being too lazy to put them in the bin or recycling them, one has to ask though, where these kids are getting the money to buy them, if parents are having issues with their kids vaping, stop giving them pocket money
 
Pawnless Endgame said:
Banning disposable vapes from kids though won't have any effect. They'll find ways around it, so bit of a straw man argument. Half of the kids in my school smoked.
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Or they will just find something else that bad

Back in my teen years (1980's) i knew a fair few teenagers that used to stiff glue & petrol :(
 
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Dg834man said:
Just like you need a prescription for cigarettes.
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Vapes were supposed to be about quitting cigarettes. But more people who didn't smoke started vaping.

My uncle died from throat cancer partly because of smoking. It happened just as vaping was becoming popular. The doctor said to my cousin he's seeing young people with throat and lung problems since vaping became a trend that in a couple of decades vapers will be trying to give up too.
 
I quit a life time smoking habit of fifty years using niquitin lozenges. They gave a similar hit to a cigarette, cigar, pipe all of which I smoked at times. Patches gave me nightmares and I decided Vaping was too similar to smoking so not really giving up.

Vapes have the same issues of something to hold and draw (or suck) and the instant nicotine hit. Like heroin this requires more input over time.

e: I also have a personal opinion that sucking what looks like a highlighter pen is a little bit girly.
 
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Diddums said:
In Europe you pay a deposit for every plastic / glass bottle you purchase. If you throw it away, you lose the deposit. So most people return their stuff to the stores and get the money refunded off their shopping. Those that do get thrown away are usually picked up by homeless folks, resulting in much cleaner streets.


Quite why our useless gov haven't implemented this here is a mystery, must have shares in waste disposal or something.
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I believe it's in the works. Fairly sure I remember scotland wanting to bring it in and them being told they can't and they have to wait for the uk policy to come into force.
 
loftie said:
I believe it's in the works. Fairly sure I remember scotland wanting to bring it in and them being told they can't and they have to wait for the uk policy to come into force.
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The Scottish govt didn't do its homework for the 2021 scheme. Didn't have small retailers on board, didn't have the UK Govt on board, couldn't sell the pitch of why Scotland having a different scheme to England/Wales/NI was worth the disruption.

The big drinks companies and big retailers invested millions not realising the scottish DRS was very far from guaranteed to go ahead.

Flaws became obvious and now Scotland will have the same recycling scheme as every other nation in the UK when that rolls out in 2025. At that point no one will have any excuse that they're being hard done by since the same rules will apply to all and there's been ages to see it coming. Not sure if the big companies that invested earlier got round to suing the Scottish govt for the failure of the DRS.
 
Hagar said:
I quit a life time smoking habit of fifty years using niquitin lozenges. They gave a similar hit to a cigarette, cigar, pipe all of which I smoked at times. Patches gave me nightmares and I decided Vaping was too similar to smoking so not really giving up.

Vapes have the same issues of something to hold and draw (or suck) and the instant nicotine hit. Like heroin this requires more input over time.

e: I also have a personal opinion that sucking what looks like a highlighter pen is a little bit girly.
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Most people are vaping as quiting, when in reality you haven't (sorry 'ex' smokers) so they don't see anything wrong with vaping.

Vaping is also just as difficult to quit.
 
Begbie said:
Most people are vaping as quiting, when in reality you haven't (sorry 'ex' smokers) so they don't see anything wrong with vaping.

Vaping is also just as difficult to quit.
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I no longer need or use nicotine at all, however I do appreciate the aroma of a decent cigar.

If I was in extremis, it would be my wish to have that cigar as a last act. :D
 
Hagar said:
I no longer need or use nicotine at all, however I do appreciate the aroma of a decent cigar. If I was in extremis, it would be my wish to have that cigar as a last act. :D
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I'll start smoking, vaping and cigars in my last few years without a doubt.
 
Begbie said:
Most people are vaping as quiting, when in reality you haven't (sorry 'ex' smokers) so they don't see anything wrong with vaping.

Vaping is also just as difficult to quit.
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I'd argue more difficult to quit. I managed to get off the cigarettes using a vape and now I'm addicted to the vape. I use the vape far more than I ever smoked partly because it's so easy to just have a puff here or there.
 
I wonder how many of the disposable vapes that get found now are the illegal ones imported and sold by the local dodgy shop that everyone knows about and therefore how much of an effect this ban will actually have.
 
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