What if the 3000 series is over hyped?

muon · 5 Sep 2020 at 18:10

kohlditz said:
wait for reviews. DF coverage was extremely limited in it's scope.

Well you can't necessarily wait. Either the 2080 Ti is gonna get destroyed and you need to sell now. Or nvidia are lying and people should buy cheaper 2080 Tis now.

Dirk Diggler · 5 Sep 2020 at 18:16

CuriousTomCat said:
Not for the shops that have to resell them as B grade for less money.

True, but irrelevant. Distance selling regulations were made for situations like this as you would be pre-ordering a product with little knowledge of it's actual performance other than manufacturer claims.

As a consumer, you can't really lose.

Satchfanuk · 5 Sep 2020 at 18:19

muon said:
It's not sponsored content. So you fall at the first hurdle.

If people want to go through the next 2 weeks in ignorance then that is up to them. The specs line with the performance gains, nvidia have reiterated the performance level several times already.

Nvidia lying like that is a serious matter as misleading investors results in lawsuits.

Contrast that with the Navi thread where people are making wild claims out of thin air and AMD have said nothing.

Go do some research and you will easy find that Nvidia funded this early review and set all the parameters. Did you not think it was strange only DF had a review.

And what 'people' say on a forum about AMD's upcoming products is called speculation. That's not the same as AMD saying it. :rolleyes:

Xelene · 5 Sep 2020 at 18:20

muon said:
Well you can't necessarily wait. Either the 2080 Ti is gonna get destroyed and you need to sell now. Or nvidia are lying and people should buy cheaper 2080 Tis now.

first world problems, if you had a 2080ti you should have sold 2-3 months ago; this was obviously going to happen. as to buying? I wouldn't right at this moment unless you are a gambler. 500 on a second hand card that may or may not be faster than a new 500 card with warranty launching in a couple of weeks seems a fools errand.

muon · 5 Sep 2020 at 18:20

Satchfanuk said:
Go do some research and you will easy find that Nvidia funded this early review and set all the parameters. Did you not think it was strange only DF had a review.

And what 'people' say on a forum about AMD's upcoming products is called speculation. That's not the same as AMD saying it.

Go do some research?

How about you report them to youtube then. If it is funded/sponsored content there needs to be a disclaimer.

You are just making stuff up.

Satchfanuk · 5 Sep 2020 at 18:21

Lokken86 said:
Well they do just work.

I have my doubts this time as he didn't say his catchphrase once during the whole 'cooking with Jensen' kitchen experience

muon · 5 Sep 2020 at 18:21

kohlditz said:
first world problems, if you had a 2080ti you should have sold 2-3 months ago; this was obviously going to happen. as to buying? I wouldn't right at this moment unless you are a gambler. 500 on a second hand card that may or may not be faster than a new 500 card with warranty launching in a couple of weeks seems a fools errand.

Oh so people with a 2080Ti shouldn't have waited for reviews then?

EastCoastHandle · 5 Sep 2020 at 18:22

This speaks volumes to me.

subbytna · 5 Sep 2020 at 18:24

Adrian1976 said:
Not being funny but Nvidia never tell lies? LOL

Nvidias business is based on lies and good tech

Begbie · 5 Sep 2020 at 18:30

EastCoastHandle said:
This speaks volumes to me.

Is this legit though?

EastCoastHandle · 5 Sep 2020 at 18:32

Begbie said:
Is this legit though?

2080ti owners have been saying all along that those results were low. So someone posted a comparison based on how they OC their card for daily use.

Begbie · 5 Sep 2020 at 18:34

EastCoastHandle said:
2080ti owners have been saying all along that those results were low. So someone posted a comparison based on how they OC their card for daily use.

So it's not a 3080 v 2080 comparassion as the video claims?

Or did I read it wrong.

Chrisc · 5 Sep 2020 at 18:34

Begbie said:
Is this legit though?

hmm im sceptical, i paused it a couple of times just to compare and once or twice it showed the 2080ti with the higher FPS

Lokken86 · 5 Sep 2020 at 18:34

Most of the touted performance increases will be for 4k with ray tracing enabled. Don't be surprised if the 3070 often falls way behnd the 2080ti.

Howling · 5 Sep 2020 at 18:36

Chrisc said:
hmm im sceptical, i paused it a couple of times just to compare and once or twice it showed the 2080ti with the higher FPS

Why would that make you sceptical? I'm more sceptical of nVidia's claims of it being 10 trillion times better to be honest... but this is why we wait for independent reviews

EastCoastHandle · 5 Sep 2020 at 18:37

Begbie said:
So it's not a 3080 v 2080 comparassion as the video claims?

Or did I read it wrong.

You read that wrong, it was the 2080ti
https://youtu.be/A7nYy7ZucxM

Satchfanuk · 5 Sep 2020 at 18:41

muon said:
Go do some research?

How about you report them to youtube then. If it is funded/sponsored content there needs to be a disclaimer.

You are just making stuff up.

So, in the video, he has a card provided by Nvidia. I mean, how else would he get it :rolleyes:

At 1:10 he says - "Full disclosure, the games shown today were chosen by Nvidia"

Then at 3:30 he says - "This is an exclusive first look within set criteria"

Stop getting so defensive over something that is clearly designed to show the new card in the best possible light

Begbie · 5 Sep 2020 at 18:42

EastCoastHandle said:
You read that wrong, it was the 2080ti
https://youtu.be/A7nYy7ZucxM

Ah didn't realise an offical video existed. Thanks

Chrisc · 5 Sep 2020 at 18:44

Howling said:
Why would that make you sceptical? I'm more sceptical of nVidia's claims of it being 10 trillion times better to be honest... but this is why we wait for independent reviews

Yeah you're right, im sceptical of everything being flirted around at the minute. i honestly dont know what to believe.

Adrian1976 · 5 Sep 2020 at 18:45

muon said:
It's not sponsored content. So you fall at the first hurdle.

If people want to go through the next 2 weeks in ignorance then that is up to them. The specs line with the performance gains, nvidia have reiterated the performance level several times already.

Nvidia lying like that is a serious matter as misleading investors results in lawsuits.

Contrast that with the Navi thread where people are making wild claims out of thin air and AMD have said nothing.

What? Lol did you watch the video? It's the first thing he mentions, how do you think he got hold of a card in the first place, shafting Nvidias ass lol.

Wow some people are so naive and believe everything they say it's actually unreal.

What was so definitive about the keynote? There wasn't a FPS graph in there whatsoever lol.