Windows 10

[Ace Modder]

Has nobody seen the MAJOR flaw with Windows 10 free upgrade??

The upgrade is tied to your hardware, as first install requires an activated Window 7 or 8 with a valid activation key.

Then Windows 10 activates when upgraded and it uses a generic key from there.

The Windows activation then is tied to your hardware and will activate with a new fresh install from then onwards, maybe it ties your license to your BIOS serial numbers or something, as future installs do NOT need any license keys and you do not have the option to put in a key.

So what if you upgrade? Your hardware ID will change. How will that work? Will you need to install 8.1 everytime? and then install 10 over the top of it? And what happens after the first "free year"

If so, that is rubbish.

 

[Sylver123]

Hi guys,

I have just noticed OcUK now has Windows 10 for pre order. Which one is the retail versions? I can only see OEM versions which will be tied to the motherboard you activate it on.

The retail version usually gives you more activation attempts and allows you to transfer over to another computer.

 

[davisdavid]

So if we're having issues installing it aren't we better off just installing 10240 build and then the update will come at some point? I saved the the 101XX build so I could reinstall it as they pulled the insider last week but it should still update to 10240 and beyond I suspect. Anyone got any ideas?

 

[davisdavid]

Hi guys,

I have just noticed OcUK now has Windows 10 for pre order. Which one is the retail versions? I can only see OEM versions which will be tied to the motherboard you activate it on.

The retail version usually gives you more activation attempts and allows you to transfer over to another computer.

Check the OCUK facebook page, I'm sure OCUK said there was no longer a retail version for windows when someone else asked. Probably due to the fact that it ties itself to your hardware I'm guessing.

 

[Ace Modder]

I have upgraded but when I try an put the NVidia drivers on it fails

there is a workaround for the nvidia driver deployment via MS updates. I have tested it and my Windows 10 no longer see's the Nvidia drivers in the update/patching screen.
Perfect!!!

 

[Orcvader]

Has nobody seen the MAJOR flaw with Windows 10 free upgrade??

The upgrade is tied to your hardware, as first install requires an activated Window 7 or 8 with a valid activation key.

Then Windows 10 activates when upgraded and it uses a generic key from there.

The Windows activation then is tied to your hardware and will activate with a new fresh install from then onwards, maybe it ties your license to your BIOS serial numbers or something, as future installs do NOT need any license keys and you do not have the option to put in a key.

So what if you upgrade? Your hardware ID will change. How will that work? Will you need to install 8.1 everytime? and then install 10 over the top of it? And what happens after the first "free year"

If so, that is rubbish.

That's what I'm worried about as well, but seeing how slow CPU advances are, I don't have any plans to replace my motherboard for the next couple of years. When that time comes I have a feeling I may just buy a retail copy just to make life easier in the future.

 

[Ace Modder]

So if we're having issues installing it aren't we better off just installing 10240 build and then the update will come at some point? I saved the the 101XX build so I could reinstall it as they pulled the insider last week but it should still update to 10240 and beyond I suspect. Anyone got any ideas?

yes, worked for me, but just wont activate at the moment.

 

[malachi]

Has nobody seen the MAJOR flaw with Windows 10 free upgrade??

The upgrade is tied to your hardware, as first install requires an activated Window 7 or 8 with a valid activation key.

Then Windows 10 activates when upgraded and it uses a generic key from there.

The Windows activation then is tied to your hardware and will activate with a new fresh install from then onwards, maybe it ties your license to your BIOS serial numbers or something, as future installs do NOT need any license keys and you do not have the option to put in a key.

So what if you upgrade? Your hardware ID will change. How will that work? Will you need to install 8.1 everytime? and then install 10 over the top of it? And what happens after the first "free year"

If so, that is rubbish.

Call MS and let them know of the hardware change if activation doesn't work. Same process since the Vista days.

 

[Cosimo]

Yeah woke up this morning to 3 machines all failed the update.

Two of mine have the same. I'll probably wait a couple of days before trying ESD.

 

[Deleted member 77746]

That's what I'm worried about as well, but seeing how slow CPU advances are, I don't have any plans to replace my motherboard for the next couple of years. When that time comes I have a feeling I may just buy a retail copy just to make life easier in the future.

I would think it would just be a phone call to M$ to activate ..

 

[MG42Maniac]

Apparently they are rolling out Windows 10 in waves so I will have to wait. I'm at work now so will do all three PCs tonight if it's available.

 

[Ace Modder]

Call MS and let them know of the hardware change if activation doesn't work. Same process since the Vista days.

I would think it would just be a phone call to M$ to activate ..

But with that you always were prompted to enter a license key before hand to at least get an activation code that you have to give MS - now you cannot even enter a key. And the automated system would provide a code you then have to enter, but without any "key" to enter in the first place, how will that work?

 

[Deleted member 77746]

AH! On MSDN they have integrate Windows 10 Home and Windows 10 Pro ...

 

[Goose]

I just ran the Media Creation tool which failed at the end and i now have both a $Windows.~BT (2.6gb) and a $Windows.~WS (5.8gb) folder. Both have only a Sources folder inside.

Created an ISO from the WS version as per the instructions on the Windows website, ran the ISO and after it checked for updates it again fails with the message "Something went wrong..."

Seems I cant install it by any method.

 

[Deleted member 77746]

But with that you always were prompted to enter a license key before hand to at least get an activation code that you have to give MS - now you cannot even enter a key. And the automated system would provide a code you then have to enter, but without any "key" to enter in the first place, how will that work?

This might come within time... like an app or something? Surely Microsoft would have thought about this one... unless it's true that the edition is tied therefore Microsoft won't activate Windows again on hardware change... oh o...

 

[Sylver123]

Check the OCUK facebook page, I'm sure OCUK said there was no longer a retail version for windows when someone else asked. Probably due to the fact that it ties itself to your hardware I'm guessing.

Does that mean we are likely to have to purchase a new license every time we move over to a new computer or change motherboards?

 

[llamadal]

Press skip? Then login with ms account, done. Did it weeks ago on a fresh install without a new insider key but my account was already listed as one.

Don't understand some of these struggles, it's been really straight forward. Did this for a few friends PCs as well, all fine

 

[Ace Modder]

This might come within time... like an app or something? Surely Microsoft would have thought about this one... unless it's true that the edition is tied therefore Microsoft won't activate Windows again on hardware change... oh o...

all this unknown is crap though. MS need to provide information as to how it will all work.

 

[wildest_jjk]

Does anyone know if the previous key (Windows 7 or 8) is still useable after the upgrade on other PCs?

Thanks!

 

[Deleted member 77746]

all this unknown is crap though. MS need to provide information as to how it will all work.

Indeed.... I certainly agree.