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10GB vram enough for the 3080? Discuss..

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Additional; I tested previously at Ultra with everything cranked at 1440P, HUB tested with High settings at 1440P with HD textures, I have no idea if RT was used in their benchmark but already I think something is fishy here.

I played to the tank part where previously I hit 6 FPS just changing the preset to high, this time I was hovering around 86-101 FPS which is sublime performance for a 3070, however when reaching the tank, my performance tanked again but to 43 FPS this time again hitting memory walls.

HUB is either using no RT or is fudging things to keep Nvidia in line with Radeon as in this game you have to scale back on Nvidia.

Is anyone here going to think people don't play any part of their games they test with?
I mean this is the very beginning of FC6.
 
If anyone would like to purchase Far Cry 6 for me, I'll test it on a 3840 x 1600 and a 4k display with a 3080. Ill put the UHD textures on, then enjoy my locked 144hz performance :p.

Deal?
Tommy's already run it at 4K Ultra Settings on his 3080 10GB with the HD Texture pack.

Good spot on noticing that HUB were not even using Ultra settings, even I missed that. :cry:
 
Additional; I tested previously at Ultra with everything cranked at 1440P, HUB tested with High settings at 1440P with HD textures, I have no idea if RT was used in their benchmark but already I think something is fishy here.

I played to the tank part where previously I hit 6 FPS just changing the preset to high, this time I was hovering around 86-101 FPS which is sublime performance for a 3070, however when reaching the tank, my performance tanked again but to 43 FPS this time again hitting memory walls.

HUB is either using no RT or is fudging things to keep Nvidia in line with Radeon as in this game you have to scale back on Nvidia.

Is anyone here going to think people don't play any part of their games they test with?
I mean this is the very beginning of FC6.

Don't know for sure about HU with regards to RT but computerbase.de uses max settings + HD texture pack and ray tracing:

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Had a quick look on ubi forums as been a while, first post I seen on the topic:

https://discussions.ubisoft.com/top...-of-gameplay-post-here/272?lang=en-GB&page=14

Hi,

I recently went from 2560x1600 to 4k because of a new screen, and with it I got these random extreme FPS slowdowns (drops to 2-4 fps) during anything from 10-45 seconds. Then recovers to about 40 fps, but never recovers fully. I need to restart the game for it to recover fully to 70+ fps.

I'm on a 3080 Ti TUF with 12GB VRAM, lots of RAM and 16 cores @ 4GHz, so spec wise I should be okay.

When playing and observing the allocated VRAM it usually hovers around 10 out of 12 GB used. But as soon as it goes above 10, like 10.1 or 10.4, or whatever, the fps drop kicks in. Is there a strict correlation between how much VRAM that is being used and the fps? Since I have 12GB at my disposal I was expecting me to be safe?

Has anyone else had the same experience with VRAM? To be this sounds like something related to hardware, not software.

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Tommy's already run it at 4K Ultra Settings on his 3080 10GB with the HD Texture pack.

Doesn't get me a copy of Far Cry 6 though, does it? :p To be fair, I may get it anyway, as I'm interested in where 10gb IS enough.

At 4k, the developer has said it's not enough and that's fine, but where would I sit with 3840 x 1600 I wonder?
 
Well at least you now have evidence against some blow hards who think a 3070 is good enough, yeah for lowered settings maybe.
You get lower RT performance on Radeon or lowered settings on Nvidia, seems fair LOL.

I doubt the 3080 is enough.
As far as I was concerned there was plenty evidence before hand that 8gb would not be enough for the high res texture pack.

Anyway, hopefully this year x070/80 class GPU's come with 16gb.

So far as predicted from nearly two years ago when all this started I said I expect there to be a handful of games that would need more than 10gb by the time next gen cards are out and out of those how many would one be interested in playing? I was right for my needs. But next gen for this class of gpu it needs to be 16gb in my opinion.
 
This whole debate and the other vram threads that people have to realise that even if youre right and the lack of vram is a problem that its what five or less games that you cant run on MAX SETTINGS due to vram. If one couldnt play these games at all then some of you may have a point but its funny af to watch pc users argue over this when one can change setting to suit ones hardware/personal needs. Strange concept to some of you I guess.

Some of you are also being disingenuous af with the whole people are sheep and they dont listen, resorting to playing the victim card, moving the goalposts etc... stop projecting and look in the mirror.

I'm going to make a hot take and convince me otherwise and I'll say the vram isnt really the issue as the people that shout the loudest dont even own the cards but these threads are just a way for posters to flex/troll each other.
 
This whole debate and the other vram threads that people have to realise that even if youre right and the lack of vram is a problem that its what five or less games that you cant run on MAX SETTINGS due to vram. If one couldnt play these games at all then some of you may have a point but its funny af to watch pc users argue over this when one can change setting to suit ones hardware/personal needs. Strange concept to some of you I guess.

Some of you are also being disingenuous af with the whole people are sheep and they dont listen, resorting to playing the victim card, moving the goalposts etc... stop projecting and look in the mirror.

I'm going to make a hot take and convince me otherwise and I'll say the vram isnt really the issue but these threads are just a way for posters to flex/troll each other.

I can't play FC6 on high let alone Ultra.

Derrrrrrrr
 
As far as I was concerned there was plenty evidence before hand that 8gb would not be enough for the high res texture pack.

Anyway, hopefully this year x070/80 class GPU's come with 16gb.

So far as predicted from nearly two years ago when all this started I said I expect there to be a handful of games that would need more than 10gb by the time next gen cards are out and out of those how many would one be interested in playing? I was right for my needs. But next gen for this class of gpu it needs to be 16gb in my opinion.

Yup, I think most people have all declared that 8GB for 4k is not ideal in the "is 8gb vram enough" thread. I think for 1440, it is still fairly good and enough for 99% of games though as shown by HU video when compared to the 6700xt and even for 4k, iirc, it still came out 14% faster on average across 50 games and that was at 4k and not factoring in ray tracing except for metro EE.

But given that their results might be wrong as well as computerbase.de, who knows.... go with whatever fits the narrative best at the time :cry:

This whole debate and the other vram threads that people have to realise that even if youre right and the lack of vram is a problem that its what five or less games that you cant run on MAX SETTINGS due to vram. If one couldnt play these games at all then some of you may have a point but its funny af to watch pc users argue over this when one can change setting to suit ones hardware/personal needs. Strange concept to some of you I guess.

Some of you are also being disingenuous af with the whole people are sheep and they dont listen, resorting to playing the victim card, moving the goalposts etc... stop projecting and look in the mirror.

I'm going to make a hot take and convince me otherwise and I'll say the vram isnt really the issue but these threads are just a way for posters to flex/troll each other.

Pretty much.

Which is why I always state this:

I have never disputed things like textures loading, frame latency spikes/stutters, fps drop as that is all what I would expect from a vram capacity shortage. What I disputed was FPS dropping to single digits without ever returning to normal even after changing settings in the menu....

Especially when you look at every other game, which not only looks better but has far more going on etc.
 
Don't know for sure about HU with regards to RT but computerbase.de uses max settings + HD texture pack and ray tracing:

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Had a quick look on ubi forums as been a while, first post I seen on the topic:

https://discussions.ubisoft.com/top...-of-gameplay-post-here/272?lang=en-GB&page=14



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Look at the 4K results. :D
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HD Textures not possible on the 3080. I guess that backs up the PcGamesHardware results that show single digit FPS on the 3080. :)

Doesn't get me a copy of Far Cry 6 though, does it? :p To be fair, I may get it anyway, as I'm interested in where 10gb IS enough.

At 4k, the developer has said it's not enough and that's fine, but where would I sit with 3840 x 1600 I wonder?
It looks like at 1440P it might be okay in some areas of the game, as all these sites use different areas to test. Ultimately though you will reach a point where the FPS will fall off a cliff.

When I had my 3090 FE I tested it overclocked vs my 6900 XT overclocked in Far Cry 6 and found that at 4K Ultra Settings with RT + HD Texture pack the 6900 XT was 15% faster. I will have to get the video up on YouTube.

But given that their results might be wrong as well as computerbase.de, who knows.... go with whatever fits the narrative best at the time :cry:
No one is disputing their results from what I can see, but HUB were not even using Ultra Settings which is a problem. Computerbase already highlighted the frame time issues with the 3080 at 1440P, but it looks like they managed to run it at 1440P without the FPS dropping to single digits. It fell off a cliff at 4K though.
 
It looks like at 1440P it might be okay in some areas of the game, as all these sites use different areas to test. Ultimately though you will reach a point where the FPS will fall off a cliff.

When I had my 3090 FE I tested it overclocked vs my 6900 XT overclocked in Far Cry 6 and found that at 4K Ultra Settings with RT + HD Texture pack the 6900 XT was 15% faster.

I'm looking at a widescreen resolution though, so somewhere between 1440p and 4k. There has to be a drop off somewhere, quite interested to see where it is. I have no problem turning down settings to enjoy the game, but I'm now interested - This thread has done more than the whole advertising campaign for me!

Did you run the 3090 v 6900xt test in their base forms?
 
I'm looking at a widescreen resolution though, so somewhere between 1440p and 4k. There has to be a drop off somewhere, quite interested to see where it is. I have no problem turning down settings to enjoy the game, but I'm now interested - This thread has done more than the whole advertising campaign for me!

Did you run the 3090 v 6900xt test in their base forms?
Yes try it out Bill see how it goes. Curious to know myself as it's in-between both resolutions. My gut says you'll get frame time variance and or FPS drops but there's only one way to find out... :D

By base form do you mean stock clocks? If so no, I wanted to see what both could do overclocked to their maximum whilst remaining stable.
Here's the 3090 video, my 6900 XT was scoring 82 FPS I believe.
 
Look at the 4K results. :D
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HD Textures not possible on the 3080. I guess that backs up the PcGamesHardware results that show single digit FPS on the 3080. :)


It looks like at 1440P it might be okay in some areas of the game, as all these sites use different areas to test. Ultimately though you will reach a point where the FPS will fall off a cliff.

When I had my 3090 FE I tested it overclocked vs my 6900 XT overclocked in Far Cry 6 and found that at 4K Ultra Settings with RT + HD Texture pack the 6900 XT was 15% faster. I will have to get the video up on YouTube.

Yet here it is playing on my system without any single digit fps unless rebar was turned on and no FSR :cry: Well it was when I had it.... Will get the game again when price drops or there is a reason worthy of taking out ubi sub.

Either way doesn't change the fact that computerbase.de results are wrong for the 3070 at 1440p if it is indeed a widespread issue :D Maybe a system issue on tired9 end..... :cry:



@Tired9 just looking at your video again, your RAM usage is exceedingly low, on my end at 3440x1440, RAM usage was about 14-16gb (that was with all windows closed in the background too). How much RAM do you have?
 
Yet here it is playing on my system without any single digit fps unless rebar was turned on and no FSR :cry: Well it was when I had it.... Will get the game again when price drops or there is a reason worthy of taking out ubi sub.

Either way doesn't change the fact that computerbase.de results are wrong for the 3070 at 1440p if it is indeed a widespread issue :D Maybe a system issue on tired9 end..... :cry:



@Tired9 just looking at your video again, your RAM usage is exceedingly low, on my end at 3440x1440, RAM usage was about 14-16gb (that was with all windows closed in the background too). How much RAM do you have?

32GB.
 
To be fair with you, you get these on both sides, I had this when I kept going on about my 5700-XT issues on Reddit.


People like this emotionally invest themselves. Plus the fact that many people are 30 or below.
I am not saying people mature always after this age or don't mature before it, but the prefrontal cortex which is involved with critical thought and long term planning is only developed around the age of 25 on average and it shows. Many are just too young or have not experienced life enough to begin to actually think, big difference in maturation of the mind.

The quote by Bruce Lee below is on point.

I understand. Its a shame.

Do we have any stats for this?, I run 3440x1440 with my 3080, quite a few people I know irl use an ultrawide like myself.

We have shared this. I think the latest guy was @tommybhoy but we do have others that know this too. Especially those with 4k displays.
 

Yeah that's very weird, RAM usage even when first loading into the game is straight away sitting at 14/15GB usage, even at 3440x1440 so something doesn't seem right with your RAM usage sitting around 6-8GB. Page file changes or any mods/changes?

Anyone else with a 3070 @ 1440 and 32gb ram?
 
Yeah that's very weird, RAM usage even when first loading into the game is straight away sitting at 14/15GB usage, even at 3440x1440 so something doesn't seem right with your RAM usage sitting around 6-8GB. Page file changes or any mods/changes?

Anyone else with a 3070 @ 1440 and 32gb ram?
Here is my page file it is all on auto.

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