**Official Gigabyte Z77X-UD5H Discussion Thread**

broo said:
After using it for a bit now I've decided the onboard sound is rubbish.

Half tempted to ditch the samsung ram and maybe pickup a pci-e soundcard to replace my aging pci x-fi.
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After another lockup on Friday night (high pitched sound + freeze), i took the X-fi fatality fps PCI card out and installed onboard plus the x-fi emulation software.

I definitely noticed a difference. The sound is fine (but not great) in BF3. I can still pinpoint sounds around me and my score has not suffered as a result.

But i do notice that there feels like gaps in the 360 degree sphere of sound and you have to turn slightly towards it to hear it properly.

With the X-fi it felt the 360 arc of sound was complete (dont know if that makes sense:p)

Definitely a lack of bass as you say broo.


I am afraid to jink myself but i have had no lockups in the 3 days (12/14 hours of gaming) since i took the card out.

So either there is an incompatability issue with the card or an issue with the PAX drivers i was using.

Were you using Creative's drivers Broo?

Everything is back at stock including VTT. (i just raised VTT and DIMM voltage to see if it helped with the freezes. It did not)

BCLK is at 100.1 though



I will play BF3 tonight and if no freeze then that will be the longest i will have went without a freeze.


If the sound card was the issue then i may look into getting a PCI-e card also
 
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stulid said:
PCI sound cards and Z68/Z77 are a marriage made in hell for some people, its to do with the PCI not being native any more and needing yet another chip to add compatibility.
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I remember when i was asking for advice on my build, you alluded to the fact that a PCI sound card might not be the best solution :)

I should have listened!
 
atheos: I was using the Creative Beta driver as it's slightly newer than the released one which worked fine on my old PC.

Wazza: I could test it but if it is the problem it doesn't help much as I don't want to lose the front usb...unless you can suggest something to try if that is the issue?

Stulid: Interesting...I did wonder if the PCI was native so thanks for confirming. Will look into getting a pci-e soundcard then. Any recommendations or shall I ask in the sound section? Mainly using headphones. (PC350s)
 
broo said:
Any recommendations or shall I ask in the sound section? Mainly using headphones. (PC350s)
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I am using the PC360's :)

I think from reading some posts that EAX is "better" for positional audio and Dolby headphone (Asus cards) sounds more "real".

I am leaning towards the Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium 7.1 Sound Card - OEM http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=SC-065-CL&tool=3

I would like a headphone amp on the card i go for and not sure if the above card has one (or even if i need it)

Let me know what you go for and your reasoning behind your choice
 
wazza300 said:
try manually setting dram voltage to whats printed on the ram itself and try with 1.10v cpu/vtt from stock 1.05v
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Just tried to raise the CPU Vtt (mem voltage was already OK) and no improvement. Thanks a lot anyway

I also opened a ticket in GGTS for my issue this morning, no response so far, I don't have high hopes in getting an answer from them anyway...

I'm going to ask for a replacement to the shop since I bought it just 12 days ago
 
Fideo_K said:
Just tried to raise the CPU Vtt (mem voltage was already OK) and no improvement. Thanks a lot anyway

I also opened a ticket in GGTS for my issue this morning, no response so far, I don't have high hopes in getting an answer from them anyway...

I'm going to ask for a replacement to the shop since I bought it just 12 days ago
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Did you set bclk to 100mhz? Try that aswell,it helps with freezing issue
 
Tried to set Bclk to 100MHz, still BSODs

I received a reply from GGTS, in short they are suggesting that's a memory problem and possible fixes are enable XMP in BIOS (which I already did at some point) and check for bent pins/clean the CPU socket because the memory controller is integrated in the CPU. I unboxed the 3570K and installed it straight away, so this is most unlikely

Maybe that's a little bit off-topic, but is there any way to test the CPU memory controller during boot? Prime'95 with small FFS seems a good test for that but I can't get into Win7
 
atheos said:
I am using the PC360's :)

I think from reading some posts that EAX is "better" for positional audio and Dolby headphone (Asus cards) sounds more "real".

I am leaning towards the Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium 7.1 Sound Card - OEM http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=SC-065-CL&tool=3

I would like a headphone amp on the card i go for and not sure if the above card has one (or even if i need it)

Let me know what you go for and your reasoning behind your choice
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What are the 360s like? I'm tempted to replace my 350s as being closed-cup it does mess with my head a bit (if that makes sense?) Also the pads are falling apart otherwise it's fine.

Think I'll go for an Asus card, just posted in sound city as I can't decide. Worries me that the most recommended cards are 4+ years old!
 
Fideo_K said:
Tried to set Bclk to 100MHz, still BSODs

I received a reply from GGTS, in short they are suggesting that's a memory problem and possible fixes are enable XMP in BIOS (which I already did at some point) and check for bent pins/clean the CPU socket because the memory controller is integrated in the CPU. I unboxed the 3570K and installed it straight away, so this is most unlikely

Maybe that's a little bit off-topic, but is there any way to test the CPU memory controller during boot? Prime'95 with small FFS seems a good test for that but I can't get into Win7
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you can run memtest86 from a usb stick or burn it to dvd and boot from dvd drive
 
broo said:
What are the 360s like?
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I went from a Sennheiser PC161 or something to the 360's.

From my limited knowlege about sound they are the best headset on the market(that has a mic attached).

The bass is very good on them. I believe the 350's were lacking in that department and one had to do a mod.

If you loved your 350's then you will find the 360 a good purchase i think.

let me know what card you do go for. I am broke after my Ivy build so probably wont buy a card for another month.
 
Fideo_K said:
they are suggesting that's a memory problem ...and check for bent pins/clean the CPU socket because the memory controller is integrated in the CPU. I unboxed the 3570K and installed it straight away, so this is most unlikely
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This is highly likely, check other forums like TweakTown for instance, you will see many people had issues with memory due to bent pins. Pins are on the mobo not the cpu. They are very easily to be damaged.
Dismount this all and check for bent bins even using magnifying glass
 
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Memtest86 is one of the first things I performed: 3 passes with all 4 sticks (circa 6.5hrs) and 7 passes on a single stick (3.5hrs) which I used as "reference"; no errors found.

What shocks me is that Gigabyte GTS is claiming that the memory [Corsair Vengeance LP - CML16GX3M4A1600C9] might be incompatible, despite it's a rather common memory among Z77 builds and appears as compatible with Z77-UDH5 in Corsair's website
 
Aye said:
This is highly likely, check other forums like TweakTown for instance, you will see many people had issues with memory due to bent pins. Pins are on the mobo not the cpu. They are very easily to be damaged.
Dismount this all and check for bent bins even using magnifying glass
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Thanks, I'll check it out, moreover my system ran smoothly for some days before the freezes (and BSODs later) appeared
 
atheos said:
let me know what card you do go for. I am broke after my Ivy build so probably wont buy a card for another month.
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In the end I went for the X-FI Titanium HD as it's on offer this week. Although it cost more than the asus options it sounded like the better option for my needs and in truth I was fairly happy with my old x-fi, just a shame it doesn't seem to work with this pc.

Survived last night with no lock ups...will see how the next couple of weeks goes!
 
broo said:
In the end I went for the X-FI Titanium HD as it's on offer this week. Although it cost more than the asus options it sounded like the better option for my needs and in truth I was fairly happy with my old x-fi, just a shame it doesn't seem to work with this pc.

Survived last night with no lock ups...will see how the next couple of weeks goes!
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Great news.

Has the sound quality improved or on a par with the old card?

I reported the issue to Sin on Overclock.net and he is going to bring the PCI issues up with Gigabyte.

I also reported it directly to them myself, so a future BIOS may improve compatability.
 
Hard to say if there's an improvement as I've been using the onboard for a week or so but its definitely an improvement over that!

Needs more testing but music did sound better imo. Didn't notice a huge difference in CS:S but needs more testing.
 
Finally got a reply from GB...

Hi,
Please clarify the issue with the USB3.0 port. Does it not detect the USB device?
Did you try download and install the VIA USB driver from our website?
http://uk.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4153#driver
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This was alfter clearly indicating what was happening.
Driver version, hardware ID's and even included a dxdiag system dump for them on the off chance.

I hope all the GB support isn't this copy and pasted waffle
 
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